Nearly choking out a melded Brakiss, Tionne, Kam, Cilghal, Streen, Dorsk 81 and the Solo twins(guided by Luke's spirit) as a disembodied will with next to no Force reserves, no aid and his ability to maintain his presence through the temples diminished. Given how vastly more powerful his living self is stated to be comparatively, I'd be inclined to say he is probably above Vader.
They used a form of meld to escape his chokehold, which is stated to complement them and make up for each other's weaknesses. In this instance Streen applied Alter Environment to push oxygen into all of their lungs and freed them.
How is somebody like Streen, whom can command Alter Environment with such potency so as to send multiple strong Force users thousands of feet into the sky, a weakling? Just one example. They are all stated to have nearly mastered everything Luke could possibly teach them in the Force.
His weakness came from the fact he was literally about as weak as he was when he first arose, Corran Horn even mentions that drawing the Suncrusher and downing Luke had exhausted Kun, explaining how the others even managed to beat him in the first place.
Regardless, he accomplished this feat with a fraction of the power he had in his prime.
See, I don't even know that much about Kun. I haven't read the Jedi academy books with him in or bothered to memorize his sourcebook notes.
But I have seen a lot of arguments over my decade-ish long career and those like the ones above are certainly compelling imo. Dude is powerful as shit and underestimating him is foolish.
As his eyes adjusted, Streen saw that all twelve of the Jedi candidates were limned with the faintest sheen of an iridescent blue glow that grew brighter as the new Jedi converged around Exar Kun."Even joined together, you are too weak to fight me!" the shadowy man said.
Streen felt his throat constrict, his windpipe close. He choked, unable to breathe. The black silhouette turned, staring at those who resisted him. The Jedi trainees grasped their throats, straining to breathe, their faces darkening with the effort.
Trying to see how he constricts them one by one as you described Beni.
Kirana Ti, Dorsk 81, Kam Solusar, Tionne Solusar, Cilghal, Brakiss, Streen, Jacen, and Jaina were limned with a blue light representing their meld, Kun strangles them regardless.
If not for Streen essentially hacking with alter environment then they'd have died. Not to mention the ghosts of Luke Skywalker and Vodo Siosk-Baas had been there the whole time helping.
Originally posted by AncientPowerStreen felt his throat constrict, his windpipe close. He choked, unable to breathe. The black silhouette turned, staring at those who resisted him. The Jedi trainees grasped their throats, straining to breathe, their faces darkening with the effort. Kun's shadow expanded, growing darker and more powerful.
Trying to see how he constricts them one by one as you described Beni.Kirana Ti, Dorsk 81, Kam Solusar, Tionne Solusar, Cilghal, Brakiss, Streen, Jacen, and Jaina were limned with a blue light representing their meld, Kun strangles them regardless.
If not for Streen essentially hacking with alter environment then they'd have died. Not to mention the ghosts of Luke Skywalker and Vodo Siosk-Baas had been there the whole time helping.
From that I infer they weren't all subdued immediately, and that he broke those who were down as individuals. At which point whatever aura they are projecting, has already been weakened if not dispelled.
Originally posted by AncientPowerThat is Streen using Alter Enviroment, not meld...
They used a form of meld to escape his chokehold, which is stated to complement them and make up for each other's weaknesses. In this instance Streen applied Alter Environment to push oxygen into all of their lungs and freed them.
Regardless the fact remains that Kun was not able to overpower them all at once, he gradually wore then down. It also stands to reason that he expanding dark aura would have dampened their ability to draw on the Force and therefore their ability to collectively resist.
How is somebody like Streen, whom can command Alter Environment with such potency so as to send multiple strong Force users thousands of feet into the sky, a weakling? Just one example. They are all stated to have nearly mastered everything Luke could possibly teach them in the Force.Right, while possessed by Exar Kun... why should we assume he's capable of this without Kun's power?
His weakness came from the fact he was literally about as weak as he was when he first arose, Corran Horn even mentions that drawing the Suncrusher and downing Luke had exhausted Kun, explaining how the others even managed to beat him in the first place.Which is reflected in his inability to crush their windpipes
Regardless, he accomplished this feat with a fraction of the power he had in his prime.Failing to see why this would be off great effort for Vader, who has broken through the Force barriers of Galen Marek. Twice.
So Beni, you're arguing that Kun force choking 9 mother****ing Jedi at once, isn't that big a deal because he was "merely" choking them out individually while suppressing their force abilities, as a ghost, instead of with them combining their powers? Based on complete supposition and your interpretation of a line which, btw, doesn't even suggest that at all? While ignoring that if they were combining their powers before his attack, he'd still need to overpower them all to be capable of "weakening" them by attacking one at a time?
Just to clarify.