Hulk is stronger, more durable/better soak and seems to be impervious to pain when in rage mode (relentless).
Thor is quicker/more skilled, has equal/better damage showings and is more versatile.
IF Thor fights like an idiot (melee, little use of other powers/lightning) he loses.
IF Thor fights smart (like he did in his first movie) he wins.
Averaged out, more than not, Thor would win in an open area. Hulk would win in a smaller space. As it is, in this scenario, Thor would win.
That's my take of it, anyway.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Hulk is stronger, more durable/better soak and seems to be impervious to pain when in rage mode (relentless).Thor is quicker/more skilled, has equal/better damage showings and is more versatile.
IF Thor fights like an idiot (melee, little use of other powers/lightning) he loses.
IF Thor fights smart (like he did in his first movie) he wins.
Averaged out, more than not, Thor would win in an open area. Hulk would win in a smaller space. As it is, in this scenario, Thor would win.
That's my take of it, anyway.
A pretty fair analysis tbh.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
You think Bana Hulk was more impressive?
Oh yeah. Bana Hulk leapt so high he was basically flying. He also had instantaneous healing powers, and was confirmed to grow stronger (and larger) the madder he got and the longer he fought.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
A pretty fair analysis tbh.Oh yeah. Bana Hulk leapt so high he was basically flying. He also had instantaneous healing powers, and was confirmed to grow stronger (and larger) the madder he got and the longer he fought.
Hulks main power shouldn't really need to be confirmed lol, his anger issues were referenced numerous times in Avengers. He clearly got more angry at Thor when he was hit by Mjolnir and then went on to start dominating the fight, when Ultron shot up Widow he got pissed and then wrecked Ultron beyond repair. Also when he calmed down after the Hulkbuster fight, he actually shrank as he became less savage implying he was getting weaker. There is plenty of evidence there of him getting stronger it just wasn't spoon fed to you like the 1st film.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
So did MCU Hulk, he jumped from the ground to that floating island, and when Widow woke up after the Ultron attack it looked like they were flying too. MCU Hulk didn't need a healing factor because he was damn near unstoppable, Bana Hulk was hurt multiple times during the film and he was only fighting the military mostly.Hulks main power shouldn't really need to be confirmed lol, his anger issues were referenced numerous times in Avengers. He clearly got more angry at Thor when he was hit by Mjolnir and then went on to start dominating the fight, when Ultron shot up Widow he got pissed and then wrecked Ultron beyond repair. Also when he calmed down after the Hulkbuster fight, he actually shrank as he became less savage implying he was getting weaker. There is plenty of evidence there of him getting stronger it just wasn't spoon fed to you like the 1st film.
Hulk didn't "start dominating the fight" just because he got hit by Mjolnir. IIRC, he missed his next attack after getting hit by Mjolnir, got kneed in the face then got put on a choke hold. He only dominated the fight after he got Thor off his feat and he was able to get his hands on him.
MCU Hulk has anger issues true, but it doesn't really seem to show him getting stronger with rage (at least not in any bigger capacity than what strength you get from an adrenaline surge). Even if he did get stronger the angrier he gets, the Hulk that Thor fought was completely irrational with rage already, meaning he should be pretty much at his peak strength... whereas Thor was holding back and didn't even use a third of his powers.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Hulk didn't "start dominating the fight" just because he got hit by Mjolnir. IIRC, he missed his next attack after getting hit by Mjolnir, got kneed in the face then got put on a choke hold. He only dominated the fight after he got Thor off his feat and he was able to get his hands on him.MCU Hulk has anger issues true, but it doesn't really seem to show him getting stronger with rage (at least not in any bigger capacity than what strength you get from an adrenaline surge). Even if he did get stronger the angrier he gets, the Hulk that Thor fought was completely irrational with rage already, meaning he should be pretty much at his peak strength... whereas Thor was holding back and didn't even use a third of his powers.
Tony fought a Hulk literally out of his mind with rage, THAT could've been argued to be peak rage Hulk. Thor fought a Hulk that was enraged yes but not on that level, visually that was obvious and as I said, Hulk shrunk back to his normal size once he calmed down after he fought Tony. Being angry =/= peak rage.
Bana Hulks most impressive strength feat was throwing a tank and pulling that large rock out of the ground. MCU Hulk one shotted and overpowered leviathans that appeared to weight 1000's of tons. All in all MCU Hulks jumping was on par, he was more durable, more ferocious and had better strength feats.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Exactly, once Hulk got his hands on Thor after the Mjolnir strike it was a wrap. Thor was able to fight him without Mjolnir at first, by the end of the fight Hulk was tossing Thor around without any resistance. That's pretty much how a Thor vs Hulk h2h fight would go in the comics, competitive at first with Thor using a combination of superior mobility, skill and comparable strength until Hulk grows stronger and starts to dominate through amping. That's exactly what we got.Tony fought a Hulk literally out of his mind with rage, THAT could've been argued to be peak rage Hulk. Thor fought a Hulk that was enraged yes but not on that level, visually that was obvious and as I said, Hulk shrunk back to his normal size once he calmed down after he fought Tony. Being angry =/= peak rage.
Bana Hulks most impressive strength feat was throwing a tank and pulling that large rock out of the ground. MCU Hulk one shotted and overpowered leviathans that appeared to weight 1000's of tons. All in all MCU Hulks jumping was on par, he was more durable, more ferocious and had better strength feats.
No, it was not a wrap. After Hulk got his hands on Thor he landed 2 hits (slammed him once on the ground and threw him once against the wall) and that was it. And after that Thor was back up and completely unhurt. At that moment in time Hulk had the upperhand but by no means did it look like he had the fight won.
The Hulk that Tony fought had some kind of mind control from Scarlet Witch. The Hulk that Thor fought had some kind of mind control from Loki's staff. You can't really prove which one was angrier. Bottom line is, both Hulks were out of control and angry enough that he was willing to kill his teammates. That's the angriest we've ever seen MCU Hulk, and that's the Hulk that Thor fought handicapped.
Hulk didn't "shrink" after he fought Tony. We don't see what happened to him after he fought Tony because he got knocked out and then we don't see him again till he's Banner.
Originally posted by FrothByte
No, it was not a wrap. After Hulk got his hands on Thor he landed 2 hits (slammed him once on the ground and threw him once against the wall) and that was it. And after that Thor was back up and completely unhurt. At that moment in time Hulk had the upperhand but by no means did it look like he had the fight won.The Hulk that Tony fought had some kind of mind control from Scarlet Witch. The Hulk that Thor fought had some kind of mind control from Loki's staff. You can't really prove which one was angrier. Bottom line is, both Hulks were out of control and angry enough that he was willing to kill his teammates. That's the angriest we've ever seen MCU Hulk, and that's the Hulk that Thor fought handicapped.
Hulk didn't "shrink" after he fought Tony. We don't see what happened to him after he fought Tony because he got knocked out and then we don't see him again till he's Banner.
If that's what you choose to believe then go ahead but that isn't what the film portrayed. Anyone claiming Hulk was as angry as he was fighting Thor as he was fighting Tony clearly doesn't possess basic observation skills or is biased. Banner even states afterwards that "the world saw the real Hulk for the first time." Scarlett Witch unleashed all of the heroes greatest fears, and that has always been Banners greatest fear; Hulk going berserk with rage, mindless and unstoppable with Banner unable to rein him in.
When Loki manipulated the Hulk he wasn't killing random civilians, even the fighter jet pilot was thrown away from the explosion. Hulk could've quite easily killed him if that was his true intention, and if that wasn't enough, when he fell he made sure to land in a building with no one inside. You're comparing 2 different scenes and leaving out the context.
He didn't? Then why does he clearly shrink here and return to his normal form?
youtube.com/watch?v=5KxmsLkUOdQ watch from 3:30.
You also still didn't answer my q, how is Bana Hulk > MCU Hulk?