(Rematch) The Hulk (MCU) VS Thor (MCU)

Originally posted by Darth Thor
LOL How did he look superior? Did he win? Did GM help Thor Lol

Okay... You claimed the Lighting would make no difference.[/B]

Why wasn't Hulk still winning after the Lightning strike lol[/B]

How was Hulk the powerhouse after the Lightning? LOL[/B]

There was no skill involved there, just power against power. Hulk didn't come out on top, so this "Hulk is the powerhouse" nonsense is finished.[/B]

So how's Hulk the clear powerhouse LOL

And fight wasn't stopped. Thor was stopped from beating on Hulk.[/B]

And Thor smacked Hulk from one end of the arena to the other. This was Pre-Lightning! With Lightning he's the clear powerhouse!

Best you can argue is a stalemate.

Even Ares has changed is mind. Even Sorrow isn't arguing more than a stalemate for Hulk.

The debate is done. Thor >/= Hulk. End of. [/B]

False, Thor hasn't ever bested him and in direct comparisons Thor is the strongest avenger. Ask tony stark, Thor doubter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He took what you said he couldn't. Hulk showed he was the powerhouse as I claimed. Thor showed himself to be skilled warrior as I claimed. Thor wasn't depowered by any stretch. You doubted him hammer less. Faithless fan.

It didn't give Thor the win. It obviously hurt Hulk but I never said it wouldn't. Thor's punches also hurt him.

He was hurt but the fight hadn't concluded. Thor didn't ko him by any stretch.

Being a powerhouse doesn't mean you're invulnerable or immune to attacks. 😉
Ridiculous. Hulk was hurt by Thor's attacks period. It wasn't power against power. Thor was hurt by Hulk's attacks. There was no winner but Hulk took Thor's lightning.

Hulk is definitely the powerhouse the Quinjet definitively answered it. Thor took the L but with both fighting and without interference it ended in a standstill. You're upset you didn't have any faith in Thor minus the hammer and don't grasp the character. You claimed no lightning you ignoramus. Hulk took what you said he couldn't. Powerhouse.

I never said Thor wasn't strong enough to hurt the Hulk. Hulk ragdolled him. That's what powerhouses do. Hulk took his best and wasn't put down.

False, Thor hasn't ever bested him and in direct comparisons Thor is the strongest avenger. Ask tony stark, Thor doubter.

Good points Quan.

Just prepare to go in circles with this guys, that's all they do.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So you're saying that Thor's performance improved after GM's interference?

When did i ever claim such?

Originally posted by FrothByte
So what you're saying is that Hulk was stronger when he fought Thor in the hellicarrier as compared to when he punched the leviathan right? Since he had already been raging for some time in the hellicarrier as compared to being newly transformed against the Leviathan?

I noticed Josh never replied to this.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Here is my opinion for this thread.

Not longer debating what can't be debated.

I notice FrothByte never read this.

Thor is superior. He was handling the battle just fine and when he got his lighting back he had the edge.

The combination of skill, strength, durability and firepower gives Thor the edge.

GM used the device on Thor for a reason.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Good points Quan.

Just prepare to go in circles with this guys, that's all they do.

At least Quan's not using Wiki as proof. Then making lame excuses when Wiki says Hulk would have lost.

You should just stop posting tbh.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He took what you said he couldn't.

I said Thor would 1 shot Hulk with Lightning? Where? Quote me.

I said Thor's superior with Lightning, which hasn't been disproven. And actually supported by GM stopping Thor laying another one.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It didn't give Thor the win. It obviously hurt Hulk but I never said it wouldn't. Thor's punches also hurt him.

No it just completely turned the fight around.

You're right Thor hurt him even without Lightning. With Lightning you're dealing with the real powerhouse of the Avenger's.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was hurt but the fight hadn't concluded. Thor didn't ko him by any stretch.

That's because GM stopped him before he could.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Being a powerhouse doesn't mean you're invulnerable or immune to attacks. 😉
Ridiculous. Hulk was hurt by Thor's attacks period. It wasn't power against power. Thor was hurt by Hulk's attacks. There was no winner but Hulk took Thor's lightning.

No Hulk took 1 shot from Thor's lightning. Thor took everything Hulk had, repeatedly in the face.

Hulk's clearly not the solo powerhouse of the team.

Your best argument is that he's the joint top powerhouse with Thor. Whereas I can easily argue Hulk couldn't have taken much more.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk is definitely the powerhouse the Quinjet definitively answered it.

😂

Oh look what the Hulk fan(boy)s are reduced to.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
At least Quan's not using Wiki as proof. Then making lame excuses when Wiki says Hulk would have lost.

You should just stop posting tbh.

You don't get to decided who posts and who doesn't.

At least i used evidence. You used nothing. All you guys did were try to debilitate my points while giving no evidence nor logic behind your statements.

Now I respect your opinions! Even if they are based on mere fanaticism.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You don't get to decided who posts and who doesn't.

At least i used evidence. You used nothing. All you guys did were try to debilitate my points while giving no evidence nor logic behind your statements.

Now I respect your opinions! Even if they are based on mere fanaticism.

I "suggested" which I'm allowed to do. I actually thought you put a half decent case together for Movie Hulk getting stronger as he gets angrier. However, making a case is different to calling it a fact and expecting everyone to accept it as fact.

You're trolling more than you're debating at this point.

Actually SM used your own "evidence" back on you, to which you just copped out with a "oh now wiki isn't evidence, it's an opinion.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So what you're saying is that Hulk was stronger when he fought Thor in the hellicarrier as compared to when he punched the leviathan right? Since he had already been raging for some time in the hellicarrier as compared to being newly transformed against the Leviathan?

Yes. If Hulk was angrier than in the scene of the Leviathan then his feats are increased.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I "suggested" which I'm allowed to do. I actually thought you put a half decent case together for Movie Hulk getting stronger as he gets angrier. However, making a case is different to calling it a fact and expecting everyone to accept it as fact.

You're trolling more than you're debating at this point.

Actually SM used your own "evidence" back on you, to which you just copped out with a "oh now wiki isn't evidence, it's an opinion.

The only ones trolling here is you and FrothByte. I give you line from the wiki which is giving Hulk's characteristics, and you bring me a prediction of the same Wiki as pretending they are the same thing.

Then you come and try to trumpcard my source with the lame excuse that just because the Wiki made a prediction it isn't canon.

Do you call that debating?

I specifically answered SM's question. The wiki is it's complete right's to make it's prediction for the fight. That's why the scene ended in a cliffhanger, so that the spectators can draw their own conclusions. Doesn't mean that they are canon.

Originally posted by playa1258

GM used the device on Thor for a reason.

Honestly The Hulk fans do know this, which is why the vast majority of them aren't arguing for anything more than a stalemate now.

The Fan(boy)s however just aren't making much sense.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The only ones trolling here is you and FrothByte. I give you a statement from a wiki which is verifiable with the movie, and you bring me a prediction of the same Wiki as pretending they are the same thing.

Then you come and try to trumpcard my source with the lame excuse that just because the Wiki made a prediction it isn't canon.

Do you call that debating?

No it's not verifiable in the movie. You were using Wiki to "prove" something not confirmed in the movies.

Then when Wiki sates Thor was about to KO Hulk (stated as a fact, not prediction), you just zig zag.

It's such poor debating and such ridiculous double standards that most people are just ignoring you now.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No it's not verifiable in the movie. You were using Wiki to "prove" something not confirmed in the movies.

Then when Wiki sates Thor was about to KO Hulk (stated as a fact, not prediction), you just zig zag.

It's such poor debating and such ridiculous double standards that most people are just ignoring you now.

Something NOT STATED by the movies, not that it isn't shown in the movies! I gave screen evidence to prove that the Angrier the Hulk the stronger he is, yet you decided to FORGET that. How convenient for you.

Something that never happened in the movie. That's a prediction.

Double standards? BAHAHA. What double standards? When did i ever said predictions were canon? It's evident you are trolling.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Hulk's limitless anger is a known feat. Many other characters including Steven Strange have even categorized Hulk's anger as limitless.

MCU has never contradicted such information. Nor does it have reason too. Specially with speculations of Planet Hulk being made...Hulk's character is based on anger. Why would Marvel ever retcon such thing?

Again Hulk's stamina is proportional to his anger, such as his strength. This is a known thing.

In Avangers there are instances in where the Hulk gets distracted or his feelings get disoriented from Anger. In such instances the Hulk loses strength and stamina.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo6f7RuQSBQ

Take the Hulkbuster vs Hulk scene for instance.

There is no way the Hulkbuster could ever K.O an angry Hulk!! Hulk was inmune to all attacks from Tony! The moment Hulk was distracted (After the building was destroyed) Tony manage to put him down.

Check minute 3:55 to minute 4:18: The Hulk was clearly not angry. He was confused and even sad for all the destruction being made! That instance was when Hulkbuster finally manage to put him down.

[B]Never compare the strength of a normal Hulk with an Angry Hulk. Simply not the same.

Found on page 18 of this thread. I even gave evidence of Hulk vs Hulkbuster scene to support my case.

But since you are clear trolls you just decided that i based my entire case on the Wiki, and ignored everything else. What a poor form of debating.

It's clear you are just wasting my time by this point. So, as i mentioned before, am not longer debating this. I've made my points clear.

I recommend you Quanchi to do the same. These guys will just waste your time on their fanaticism. [/B]

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Something NOT STATED by the movies, not that it isn't shown in the movies! I gave screen evidence to prove that the Angrier the Hulk the stronger he is, yet you decided to FORGET that. How convenient for you.

That's not proving anything Lol. I could show you Spider-Man getting stronger as he gets angrier.

There's also plenty of instances, including this movie, where Hulk gets hit, and doesn;t get angrier/stronger. But instead needs time to recover.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Found on page 18 of this thread. I even gave evidence of Hulk vs Hulkbuster scene to support my case.

But since you are clear trolls you just decided that i based my entire case on the Wiki, and ignored everything else. What a poor form of debating.

It's clear you are just wasting my time by this point. So, as i mentioned before, am not longer debating this. I've made my points clear.

I recommend you Quanchi to do the same. These guys will just waste your time on their fanaticism. [/COLOR] [/B]

LOL

If you call that evidence then you might as well quit.

Now sure Marvel might turn around in the next movie and state it as a fact, but until they do, it's not.

And there's certainly nothing to point out HUlk's anger is Limitless. And we already know Hulk can be KO'd.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
When did i ever claim such?

You claimed that GM's interference helped Thor, but have yet to explain how exactly it helped him.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You don't get to decided who posts and who doesn't.

I can quote you telling people to stop posting at least 5 times, talk about double standards.