Originally posted by Khazra RebornHe was trying to reason with him at first but definitely engaged him to win. Thor didn't win and Hulk withstood his lightning which was claimed prior to the film was being something the Hulk couldn't withstand. Hulk withstood them.
It's not my opinion that Thor wasn't seriously fighting Hulk, it's about as close to a confirmed fact that you can get, without it being stated outright.
Originally posted by Darth ThorEverything I said about this film came to pass. Call me Nostradamus. You were dead wrong on everything and underestimated Thor. He isn't the god of hammers.
Quan’s the only one left on team Hulk.This movie destroyed the Hulk fan(boy)s.
Was a great film for Hulk fans though, as Hulk was entertaining AF.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was trying to reason with him at first but definitely engaged him to win. Thor didn't win and Hulk withstood his lightning which was claimed prior to the film was being something the Hulk couldn't withstand. Hulk withstood them.
Let's break down the fight properly.
The first part of the fight:
Hulk fighting seriously vs. unwilling Thor = Thor got beat up.
2nd part:
Hulk fighting seriously vs. Thor fighting seriously = Hulk got beat up.
3rd part:
Pissed off Hulk vs. Thor fighting seriously = Thor got beat up.
4th part:
Pissed off Hulk vs. Pissed off Thor = Hulk got beat up.
Originally posted by Darth ThorHulk showed he was the powerhouse when he ragdolled him. That's what powerhouses do. That doesn't mean powerhouses are immune to damage by skilled foes but out of the two it's clear prior to their fight Hulk is the stronger more durable one of the two.
Yeah everything except hulk being the powerhouse, and Thor being stopped from KO’ing a groggy Hulk 😂
Originally posted by FrothByteAnd despite their prolonged fight their was no winner. Both had their moments and as I said Thor is the more skilled warrior while Hulk is the stronger powerhouse. My money is on the rampaging beast who took Thor's best and was ready for more. He can take more damage than Thor and is stronger so I favor Hulk.
Let's break down the fight properly.The first part of the fight:
Hulk fighting seriously vs. unwilling Thor = Thor got beat up.2nd part:
Hulk fighting seriously vs. Thor fighting seriously = Hulk got beat up.3rd part:
Pissed off Hulk vs. Thor fighting seriously = Thor got beat up.4th part:
Pissed off Hulk vs. Pissed off Thor = Hulk got beat up.
Originally posted by playa1258They fight and as I said Hulk would come across as superior and I doubted we'd have a clear winner. I also predicted Thor was as powerful without the hammer as with it. I was vindicated on all counts.
Quan will never concede a character he supports loses.His Khan troll threads are proof of this.
Originally posted by quanchi112
And despite their prolonged fight their was no winner. Both had their moments and as I said Thor is the more skilled warrior while Hulk is the stronger powerhouse. My money is on the rampaging beast who took Thor's best and was ready for more. He can take more damage than Thor and is stronger so I favor Hulk.
Wrong. Hulk was allowed to rampage against Thor as much as he wanted and still couldn't take out Thor. Thor was only allowed one hit when he was going all out then he got zapped. That is not Hulk "taking Thor's best". That was Hulk getting only a taste of Thor's best.
lol Odin saved Thors life against Hulk and against Hela. Hulk won the first part of the arena fight against Pre amp Thor, post amp Thor was actually able to fight Hulk power vs power for the first time but no amount "holding back" excuses can change that Hulk took Thors best physical attack to date and got right back up. Hulk can clearly take a lot more but no one in this thread can say for 100% certainty whether Thor can ko Hulk, we do now know Hulk has the power to ko Thor.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
[B]Yes he can and he has, twice. Thor's far superior skill is an equalizer to Hulk's strength. This is hilarious, it's not as if Thor wasn't holding back 90% of the fight and was still having Hulk eat dirt and totally dominating every time he decided to fight back.
Mjolnir was destroyed but Thor had a very adequate stand-in, this fight was clearly intended to give us a classic Thor vs Hulk battle and once Hulk got angry he decisively overpowered Thor even with hammer in hand. Overall the fight more or less followed the script, back and forth with both getting good licks in, ambiguous ending but enough to know that an all out fight to the death would be epic and likely not a stomp on either side.
Yes it does because if Thor was serious, he'd have bashed Hulk's head in after the first opening hit.
Lol what? Thor with Mjolnir is all but invincible. Kurse was the physically strongest Marvel character that isn't a Skyfather who could actually knock it away. As far as Hulk is concerned, he can't separate Thor if he didn't want to. Thor dropped his hammer when he fell but the only reason he didn't call it back to swing is because he set up Vision.Your examples are Kurse who's so damn strong he brushed off Thor's punches and Ultron who Thor set up.
In an open arena fight, where Thor can actually summon the hammer without tearing through a ship or wants to put Hulk down? It's in his hand. Instead of letting the Hulk hold the hammer while he tries to choke him out (Again to avoid hurting him), Thor immediately recalls the hammer and continues to bash Hulk with it.
I think it's not by any logical examination. Being able to hit with an indestructible mallet that can be charged up to produce the greatest striking power in superhero movies is a huge bonus. Obviously post Ragnarok Thor is superior to pre but that's within his own development.Let's put it this way, Thor with Mjolnir in a serious mood (Thor 1 for example) would still beat Ragnarok Thor.
It's nice seeing the Thor contingent rallying after his best performance against Hulk in years but even in a fight showcasing his skills and power Thor still could only stalemate Hulk and still got knocked out at the end of it all.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk showed he was the powerhouse when he ragdolled him. That's what powerhouses do. That doesn't mean powerhouses are immune to damage by skilled foes but out of the two it's clear prior to their fight Hulk is the stronger more durable one of the two.
Yeah powerhouses sucker punch 😂
Nah the powerhouse is the guy who takes everything the raving monster gives him while trying to calm him down.
Thor was more durable and had the more powerful punches so he’s the powerhouse.
And best of all Thor was winning the fight! Powerhouses don’t need help from GM to save their hide!
There was a clear winner! Couldn’t have been more clear. Marvel and Stan Lee himself have declared Thor the powerhouse. Accept it and stop crying. That’s why this movie has destroyed the Hulk fan(boy)s 😂
It’s okay to be no.2 😄
Originally posted by quanchi112
They fight and as I said Hulk would come across as superior and I doubted we'd have a clear winner. I also predicted Thor was as powerful without the hammer as with it. I was vindicated on all counts.
No you didn’t predict Hulk would need GM’s help.
Thor was the clear winner. You never predicted that.
You were wrong about Hulk being the powerhouse. You promised Objectivity but have proven you’re not capable of it.
Originally posted by Darth ThorHe didn't need GM's help. I believe Hulk would have prevailed if it continued. I already went over this.
No you didn’t predict Hulk would need GM’s help.Thor was the clear winner. You never predicted that.
You were wrong about Hulk being the powerhouse. You promised Objectivity but have proven you’re not capable of it.
Thor never beat the Hulk. You have no objectivity and never truly believed in Thor. You love the hammer more than him.
Hulk is the powerhouse while Thor is the more skilled warrior. When he ragdolled Thor this was the icing on the cake. Powerhouses ragdoll.
Originally posted by FrothByteHulk took the lightning dead on. The lightning was his best according to many. Hulk took many blows prior to and was still ready for more. Hulk can take what Thor dishes out. Hulk IMO would have prevailed but it is speculation either way. Thor had more than enough time to win so quit crying over what he didn't accomplish.
Wrong. Hulk was allowed to rampage against Thor as much as he wanted and still couldn't take out Thor. Thor was only allowed one hit when he was going all out then he got zapped. That is not Hulk "taking Thor's best". That was Hulk getting only a taste of Thor's best.