Originally posted by Darth Thor
@h1a8, it’s not just about catching the hammer, it’s about catching Thor’s blow. Given the treatment Thor was giving him, it’s clear he didn’t have the strength to catch that blow earlier in the fight.
I disagree. Hulk has plenty of showings to prove he has the necessary strength. Also, Hulk didn't try before.
Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. Hulk has plenty of showings to prove he has the necessary strength. Also, Hulk didn't try before.
Hulk was getting smacked around before. The fight (as it was before the Hammer catch) was wholly inconsistent with the Hammer catch.
To me it was the first perfectly clear evidence that his strength increases throughout a fight.
Originally posted by FrothByteI already posted a definition for the word strike here. Thor can lightning amp his attacks so we need more specific definitions to address the specificity. I already explained the logic behind giving more specific definitions to the comic book versus characters to help improve the communication in a discussion.
Your differentiation between lightning strike vs. lightning bolt. Because if it's based off a dictionary definition, I'd appreciate a direct quote.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I already posted a definition for the word strike here. Thor can lightning amp his attacks so we need more specific definitions to address the specificity. I already explained the logic behind giving more specific definitions to the comic book versus characters to help improve the communication in a discussion.
Yes, you posted your definition. My question was whether you got that definition from a dictionary or if you just made it up?
Because if you look into a dictionary, lightning strike is pretty much synonymous to lightning bolt.
Originally posted by FrothByteThat definition was copy and pasted from a Google search. That changes when it comes to Thor since human beings can't punch with lightning. Specificity is paramount to debating.
Yes, you posted your definition. My question was whether you got that definition from a dictionary or if you just made it up?Because if you look into a dictionary, lightning strike is pretty much synonymous to lightning bolt.
Originally posted by quanchi112
strike
strīk/Submit
verb
1.
hit forcibly and deliberately with one's hand or a weapon or other implement.
"he raised his hand, as if to strike me"
synonyms: bang, beat, hit; More
I asked for the definition of lightning strike, not just strike. Considering that lightning doesn't have hands, your definition wouldn't apply.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Hulk was getting smacked around before. The fight (as it was before the Hammer catch) was wholly inconsistent with the Hammer catch.To me it was the first perfectly clear evidence that his strength increases throughout a fight.
A weaker character can smack around someone stronger with a hammer.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Getting smacked around by a hammer doesn't means anything for strength.A weaker character can smack around someone stronger with a hammer.
When he smacks him from 2 side of the arena to the other, almost KO’ing him, of course it has something to do with strength.
Besides, Hulk later caught the same “Hammer” blow, displaying his clear increase in strength. Clear to me at least.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Getting smacked around by a hammer doesn't means anything for strength.A weaker character can smack around someone stronger with a hammer.
A weakr prson can knock somebody out with a hammer, they can't smack them hundreds of feet through wall of alien material.
It still requires strength. Regardless, I am going to go against my Thor team here and say that Hulk catching the Hammer isn't enough to make the claim that he gets stronger. There has never been a direct statement.
The only things I can think of, are his fight with Abom, becoming calm and then getting knocked out by HB and then maybe catching the hammer, but if you look at the size of his hand that shouldn't be that hard.
Originally posted by FrothByteThor hit someone with a lightning strike since he punched with lightning. Can normal human beings do that ? No, that's why we use the correct word to be more specific. Being vague is poor debating.
I asked for the definition of lightning strike, not just strike. Considering that lightning doesn't have hands, your definition wouldn't apply.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
When he smacks him from 2 side of the arena to the other, almost KO’ing him, of course it has something to do with strength.Besides, Hulk later caught the same “Hammer” blow, displaying his clear increase in strength. Clear to me at least.
Hulk was clearly shown stronger than Thor from get go.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
A weakr prson can knock somebody out with a hammer, they can't smack them hundreds of feet through wall of alien material.It still requires strength. Regardless, I am going to go against my Thor team here and say that Hulk catching the Hammer isn't enough to make the claim that he gets stronger. There has never been a direct statement.
The only things I can think of, are his fight with Abom, becoming calm and then getting knocked out by HB and then maybe catching the hammer, but if you look at the size of his hand that shouldn't be that hard.