Superman heat vision vs Thor lightning

Started by abhilegend13 pages
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Misrepresented in all you mean

What is there to misrepresentation here?

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/dw_origin3.jpg

The writer flat out tells what happened.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's why I said it startled him at best. There is no alluding that it hurt him at any point. Point me to the panel where he is shown hurt. Him releasing herc doesn't means he was hurt.

Also if we're taking Thor slightly disturbing Chaos King as something Uber, here is Superman destroying Dominus body in one HV shot.
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=ccf0311201100000-1.jpg

You know the same Dominus who manhandled Kismet like a *****.

Easily better than that.


Wow this is pathetic. Add another to one of your countless displays butthurttery. Just when I thought you couldn't get any lower, you prove me wrong yet again.

Here I'll help you break this mental barrier.
Look at the scan again. Now tell me how did Thor "startle" the Chaos King? Using your own words, how did he get "startled" enough so that he broke off his assault on Supergod Herc and allowed himself to get punched into a trap?

I'm brimming with anticipation.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What is there to misrepresentation here?

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/dw_origin3.jpg

The writer flat out tells what happened.

It's you making the equation that expresses Superman = 1/4 of that when Waverider and especially Damage are conveniently left out.

Here's "1/4" of a big bang plus other fractions creating at least a galaxy on Doomsday's chest scab thing:

The heroes drained off most of Parallax's power and put it into Damage and then Spectre completely overloaded him...

Not sure how much of that can be attributed to Superman... seems kind of like he threw a box of delicious chicken wing bones into a dump. I want chicken wings now.

Nope. Superman

Golgo's gonna Golgo 👆

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The heroes drained off most of Parallax's power and put it into Damage and then Spectre completely overloaded him...

Not sure how much of that can be attributed to Superman... seems kind of like he threw a box of delicious chicken wing bones into a dump. I want chicken wings now.


👆

Forgot about Spectre pumping Damage up with energy. Somehow Superman's contribution in that scene shiets on Thor hurting a being who was stated to absorb 98.67% of the multiverse even though an abstract was shown as one of the contributors. 😑

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The heroes drained off most of Parallax's power and put it into Damage and then Spectre completely overloaded him...

Not sure how much of that can be attributed to Superman... seems kind of like he threw a box of delicious chicken wing bones into a dump. I want chicken wings now.


That's not what was shown in Doomsday Wars. Nice try.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wow this is pathetic. Add another to one of your countless displays butthurttery. Just when I thought you couldn't get any lower, you prove me wrong yet again.

Here I'll help you break this mental barrier.
Look at the scan again. Now tell me how did Thor "startle" the Chaos King? Using your own words, how did he get "startled" enough so that he broke off his assault on Supergod Herc and allowed himself to get punched into a trap?

I'm brimming with anticipation.


No, what is pathetic is your constant whining. Get the **** out of here with it.

You first show me where he hurt chaos king. Must be easy for you.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
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Forgot about Spectre pumping Damage up with energy. Somehow Superman's contribution in that scene shiets on Thor hurting a being who was stated to absorb 98.67% of the multiverse even though an abstract was shown as one of the contributors. 😑


Spectre overloaded him. Superman, Captain Atom, Darkstar and Ray provided him the energy to restart creation as shown explicitly in Doomsday Wars and recapped in 52.

But way to miss the on panel description.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, what is pathetic is your constant whining. Get the **** out of here with it.

You first show me where he hurt chaos king. Must be easy for you.


You were already given a step by step description as to why CK was hurt on the scene. Are you purposely being obtuse?

Now we're all waiting for your version. I want to see how Thor "startled" Chaos King into letting Herc punch him into the continuum. Finish what you started.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spectre overloaded him. Superman, Captain Atom, Darkstar and Ray provided him the energy to restart creation as shown explicitly in Doomsday Wars and recapped in 52.

But way to miss the on panel description.


facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not what was shown in Doomsday Wars. Nice try.
what
Neglecting to spend more pages or time on a flashback equals the absolute story?

Does that mean Zero Hour was like a two page event? The only things that happened in that story was Parallax was screwing with universes and him and Spectre fought to some unforeseen conclusion?

What a shitty event. We don't even know what happened to Parallax.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
You were already given a step by step description as to why CK was hurt on the scene. Are you purposely being obtuse?

Now we're all waiting for your version. I want to see how Thor "startled" Chaos King into letting Herc punch him into the continuum. Finish what you started.

facepalm


And it was your fanfiction. Not surprisingly, it didn't happen that way in the story. Now let's try again, where was CK hurt.

You first tell how CK was hurt. I will spoon feed you after that.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
what
Neglecting to spend more pages or time on a flashback equals the absolute story?

Does that mean Zero Hour was like a two page event? The only things that happened in that story was Parallax was screwing with universes and him and Spectre fought to some unforeseen conclusion?

What a shitty event. We don't even know what happened to Parallax.


No, the notion that it was Spectre who was responsible for the big bang was put to rest in Doomsday Wars. If it was such a big deal, it was at least mentioned in the story. Here once again it wasn't showed.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/107191/3352351-2663049-xxdc52week07_026.jpg

It flat out mentions how Damage was infused with enough energy to start big bang even before Hal was totally drained fighting Spectre. Curiouser and Curiouser.

So basically you're saying a one and two page retelling of the entire event hold more weight than the actual comic event? Not because they add anything mind you, but because the one and two page retellings neglect to mention a lot of things.

Also your new retelling retconned your old retelling. Now Deadpool is apart of this? Can't these totally complete stories of Zero Hour keep it straight? They even added chains in this one!

I'm confused though. Was Zero Hour one or two pages in length? There's retcons everywhere

Originally posted by abhilegend
And it was your fanfiction. Not surprisingly, it didn't happen that way in the story. Now let's try again, where was CK hurt.

You first tell how CK was hurt. I will spoon feed you after that.
No, the notion that it was Spectre who was responsible for the big bang was put to rest in Doomsday Wars. If it was such a big deal, it was at least mentioned in the story. Here once again it wasn't showed.


This is pretty much the response I'm getting from you.

If you're afraid to give your version just say so.
Concession accepted. 👆

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So basically you're saying a one and two page retelling of the entire event hold more weight than the actual comic event? Not because they add anything mind you, but because the one and two page retellings neglect to mention a lot of things.

Also your new retelling retconned your old retelling. Now Deadpool is apart of this? Can't these totally complete stories of Zero Hour keep it straight? They even added chains in this one!

I'm confused though. Was Zero Hour one or two pages in length? There's retcons everywhere


So are you telling me Spectre being the only one to cause big bang was seemingly forgotten just because recaps are short? Sorry but that just sounds like an excuse.

It's telling that two recaps of the same event forgot how it was Spectre who started the big bang. Mind you doomsday wars was written by the same writer who wrote Zero Hour but apparently he forgot to consult with Bran.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
This is pretty much the response I'm getting from you.

If you're afraid to give your version just say so.
Concession accepted. 👆


Lulz, if you can't even prove a simple hurt scene you should leave the site.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So are you telling me Spectre being the only one to cause big bang was seemingly forgotten just because recaps are short? Sorry but that just sounds like an excuse.

It's telling that two recaps of the same event forgot how it was Spectre who started the big bang. Mind you doomsday wars was written by the same writer who wrote Zero Hour but apparently he forgot to consult with Bran.
Lulz, if you can't even prove a simple hurt scene you should leave the site.

I never said Spectre was the only one to cause anything. Go back and read my post.

And it literally does not matter what recaps say. You're on the basis that neglecting to mention something means it never happened. Following your logic Extant was completely retconned out of the event in one retelling. And following your logic it's a complete mystery how Hal even got these powers in the first place. Which for starters on all the shit we could bring up are some pretty ****ing important details in Zero Hour. Hal just went nuts and started erasing timelines with his own power. Canon.

What Zero Hour was just the end fight then, no lead up? That's your logic here.

The fact that you're using short retellings when the original feat was longer than those with a ****ton of context should show you're barking up the wrong alley. The ****ing fact that you're basically telling me to ignore the actual comic it happened in says you're wrong.

Nothing was specifically changed in those retellings. Nothing. All there was was attention to detail missing which is to be expected when you deal with any event let alone an event of this magnitude.

This is the shadiest shit I've seen in a long time. You would cry Rao if the same was flipped around on Superman. I don't understand how you think this retcons anything when by the same logic you can retcon 99 percent of the event.

This is ****ing stupid. Straight up ass hole shitting in an ass hole level of stupid.

You're using simplified accounts of the event as to give the reader an idea of what happened and expecting that to be the true tale of what happened. That'd be like listening to Carver shorten a story over someone summarizing an event panel for panel.

You might as well just start reading summaries from the authors of their novels and vehemently stand firm in anything not happening in the summary is wrong.
"The author didn't write that whore getting gangbanged in the summary, why don't you eat a dick and then make sure to include it in a summary of your life."

Also according to 52 Kyle held a full power Parallax at bay all by himself while the heroes were big banging Damage.

It's just... why do you do this? The retellings aren't wrong, they just fit the definition of lacking context. It is not telling us everything we already know from that event.

And lol at this having anything to do with me or my opinion. Yes, the writer should have consulted me for the retelling. Surely this is reliant on me. Shame on me and such and such.
You're literally ignoring crucial details from the actual comic the actual feat takes place that the retellings were based off of so you can put Superman on a pedestal. This should naturally fall on me as opposed to you.

"Two abstract level beings were involved in putting energy through Damage to create a big bang? Yeah maybe in the comic loser! Two seperate retellings didn't mention that so naturally that means Superman's penis is the juiciest hog around. I don't say this enough, but what a cock!"

I'm honestly suprised you don't stab Celey in his sleep with that reach.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And it was your fanfiction. Not surprisingly, it didn't happen that way in the story. Now let's try again, where was CK hurt.

You first tell how CK was hurt. I will spoon feed you after that.
No, the notion that it was Spectre who was responsible for the big bang was put to rest in Doomsday Wars. If it was such a big deal, it was at least mentioned in the story. Here once again it wasn't showed.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/107191/3352351-2663049-xxdc52week07_026.jpg

It flat out mentions how Damage was infused with enough energy to start big bang even before Hal was totally drained fighting Spectre. Curiouser and Curiouser.

The recap only says that Damage was infused by energy - nowhere does it say it was Superman's HV that he was infused with.

Wow at creative interpretation.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So are you telling me Spectre being the only one to cause big bang was seemingly forgotten just because recaps are short? Sorry but that just sounds like an excuse.

It's telling that two recaps of the same event forgot how it was Spectre who started the big bang. Mind you doomsday wars was written by the same writer who wrote Zero Hour but apparently he forgot to consult with Bran.
Lulz, if you can't even prove a simple hurt scene you should leave the site.

I'm gonna post scans that actually proves that Thor did in fact hurt the Chaos King.Not to the point Thor injured the Chaos King with the lightning attack.But to the point that it did stun the Chaos King long enough for SG Herc to punch him into the continuum.

No 1)Daimon Hellstorm attacks the Chaos King(pre 98.76% destruction of the multiverse)

Notice Daimon panicking and telling everyone to stop CK?Add to the fact CK absorbs whatever he destroys makes him more powerful.And Daimon's attack on CK doesn't even register.He's not giving any attention to Daimon.CK doesn't even show any sign of pain from Daimon's attack.Here's another scan retelling the events by Silver Surfer from Chaos War God Squad.

In that scene, CK is smiling at Daimon's attack on him.Its like CK is mocking Daimon for his efforts.So Daimon's attack on CK is doing nothing.CK wasn't hurt as shown on panel.

No 2)Zeus attacks Chaos King(pre 98.76% destruction of the multiverse)

Zeus wasn't a skyfather when he did that I'll admit.But CK hasn't attacked the Council Elite at that time.This scene happened in Chaos War#2 but retold through Ares's perspective in Chaos War Ares.This scene depicts a less powerful CK tanking an attack from Zeus and killing him afterwards.

This are some of the examples I gathered.There was CK fighting Impossible Man and the Zenn-La Gods example as well.And CK didn't even show pain when he fought them.Now that I think about it, Thor actually hurt CK powered by 98.76% of the multiverse with a lightning bolt as shown on panel.While Daimon and Zeus failed to hurt a less powerful CK with their attacks.They didn't even make a less powerful CK close his eyes in pain.I might as well say Thor's lightning bolt was multiversal 😱

Originally posted by tkitna
Its somewhat magical in nature though, so it really doesn't bother me that bad. It was just a mere annoyance anyways.

Plus the durability of Sentry tends to be all over the place from one instance to the next. His power levels are about as stable as his mental state.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you want high end feats Chaos King. Consistently though I see hv as something Thor can sprint through.

I don't get it. Do you mean he has feats of hurting the Chaos King? As in..the same person who was a high end cosmic? If your answer is "yes" I have to then ask if you feel it is legit for Thor to be hurting cosmics with..anything in his arsenal. Dude couldn't even kill Juggernaut with his god blast, but he can hurt cosmics with lightning?