Kenobi and Dooku vs Sidious and Anakin -- Sabers Only

All RotS incarnations.

Fight takes place in a gigantic wide open hangar bay with few obstructions.

The Emperor and Vader

Uh, Sidious can take this solo. And Anakin is superior to either on team 1.

Team 2 stomps.

Sidious can take this, but Anakin isn't superior to Obi-Wan. He's much more aggressive and flashy, but it was plainly obvious he couldn't take Kenobi in a 1x1 even with all his Force Powers.

Because of his conflict. He is the superior combatant though as evidenced by him curbing Dooku.

Sidious solos.

And for the record...

Anakin>Obi Wan. Vader<Obi Wan.

The team is 'Sidious and ANAKIN', which means he's the Invisible Hand badass, not the 'you underestimate my power' Mustafar dumbass.

Uh, no. Vader is at his most powerful on Mustafar in term of skill and strength. The problem is he doesn't want to kill Obi-Wan and doesn't want to fully embrace the Dark Side. IMO, Vader could destroy the Anakin that dueled Dooku. Easily.

So nobody thinks team 1 has a shot? I feel like Dooku vs Sidious would be fairly close in a sabers only bout. They each performed rather similarly against Yoda in the saber portion of their fights (Sids lasted a bit longer but unlike Dooku, Yoda was able to disarm him).

Now, if we were to say they could use force speed to enhance their fighting ability then Sidious would speed blitz a la the arrest scene. But in terms of pure saber skill/instinct/prowess it'd be close.

Same with Anakin and Obi-Wan, though the former would probably have the upper hand when fighting with a clear mind.

Team 1 hasn't a prayer against Sidious, even in Sabers only. Sidious is SO DAMN FAST that Dooku and Kenobi can't even track him.

Sidious solos.

Originally posted by ares834
Uh, Sidious can take this solo. And Anakin is superior to either on team 1.

Team 2 stomps.

Feats say Anakin becoming Vader was a major drop in power for him.

Dooku is a far better duelist then Kenobi will ever be. Anakin whooped him one. Then, Vader turns around and gets his famous Mustafar injuries from Kenobi.

Hence:

ROTS Anakin>Dooku>Kenobi>ROTS Vader

Now, by ROTJ, Vader beats his ROTS Anakin self, because he's that much more experienced, but in ROTS, being Vader just handicaps him.

And so, Anakin would stomp his evil self.

Operation Knightfall Vader>Invisible Hand Anakin.

And Sidious solos.

Vader doesn't fight anyone during Knightfall that's as powerful as Dooku or Kenobi. He's mostly just mopping up hordes of scrub jedi.

The only powerful beings he fights after becoming Vader are Kenobi, an illusion of Maul, Galen Marek/Starkiller, and Luke.

Wtf is this. Team 2 wrecks.

Kenobi's going to get blitzed.

Dooku and Kenobi are going to get speed blitzed. Awesome a Makashi duelist as Dooku is, he's got maybe 3 or 4 seconds against his master.

Anakin can take a coffee break as we argue whether he was stronger as Anakin or as Vader 😛

Kenobi beat Dooku once and he bested Anakin, stalemated Maul, kicked Ventress's ass, and easily beat Savage. People REALLY need to stop lowballing him

And throughout all that circumstance, he got his ass kicked on multiple occasions against the same people.

Team 2. Sidious solos this.