Kenobi and Dooku vs Sidious and Anakin -- Sabers Only

Started by DARTH POWER4 pages
Originally posted by Angelalex242
Dooku and Kenobi are going to get speed blitzed. Awesome a Makashi duelist as Dooku is, he's got maybe 3 or 4 seconds against his master.

WTF? Dooku gets speed blitzed?

Funny I don't remember Dooku getting speed blitzed by Sidious's equal (Yoda). Nor do I remember Sidious speed blitzing Dooku's equal (Mace).

This forum has taken the whole speed blitzing thing way too far.

Mace had a unique Vapaad amp. And Yoda is inherently nonviolent and holds back most of the time.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Mace had a unique Vapaad amp. And Yoda is inherently nonviolent and holds back most of the time.

Great excuses.

So tell me where's the proof that Sidious would blitz Dooku. Tell me who on Dooku's level has Sidious previously blitzed.

Dooku won't get blitzed but he won't win either

In terms of purely saber dueling, no force powers.

Revan>Yoda>Sidious>Anakin>Dooku>Mace Windu>Kenobi

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Great excuses.

So tell me where's the proof that Sidious would blitz Dooku. Tell me who on Dooku's level has Sidious previously blitzed.

I don't think Dooku's getting blitzed either but those aren't really excuses. If Yoda was bloodlusted then perhaps his fight gets easier. I doubt it but it's possible.

Originally posted by Based
I don't think Dooku's getting blitzed either but those aren't really excuses. If Yoda was bloodlusted then perhaps his fight gets easier. I doubt it but it's possible.

My point was that wouldn't make sense if Yoda could just "blitz" Dooku. Because in that scenario he could easily just disarm Dooku without being overly violent/aggressive at all. In fact IF he could do that, it would be the least aggressive way to take down Dooku.

Originally posted by Board Walker
In terms of purely saber dueling, no force powers.

Revan>Yoda>Sidious>Anakin>Dooku>Mace Windu>Kenobi

Have you ever made a legitimate comment that wasn't a troll on here before?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
My point was that wouldn't make sense if Yoda could just "blitz" Dooku. Because in that scenario he could easily just disarm Dooku without being overly violent/aggressive at all. In fact IF he could do that, it would be the least aggressive way to take down Dooku.

Yoda was holding back, and killing is much easier than disarming.

Fisto has similar speed feats, maybe faster tbh and he was blitzed.

Originally posted by Selenial
Yoda was holding back, and killing is much easier than disarming.

What?

Firstly it's easier to chop off limbs than it is to kill. But granted, that's still pretty violent.

But if he could actually SPEED BLITZ Dooku, then of course it would be easy to chuck his weapon out of his hand, if Dooku "CAN'T EVEN SEE YODA MOVE." lol

Originally posted by Selenial
Fisto has similar speed feats, maybe faster tbh and he was blitzed.

LOL You comparing Fisto to Dooku now?

Originally posted by Trocity
Have you ever made a legitimate comment that wasn't a troll on here before?

You dare address the prophet directly?

Originally posted by Selenial
Yoda was holding back, and killing is much easier than disarming.

Fisto has similar speed feats, maybe faster tbh and he was blitzed.


You are actually wrong. Disarming is much easier than killing.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
What?

Firstly it's easier to chop off limbs than it is to kill. But granted, that's still pretty violent.

But if he could actually SPEED BLITZ Dooku, then of course it would be easy to chuck his weapon out of his hand, if Dooku "CAN'T EVEN SEE YODA MOVE." lol

LOL You comparing Fisto to Dooku now?

Yes, and Yoda didn't want to kill or maim him. He wanted a chance to talk, like they did in Dark Rendezvous. And the thing is he as blitzing Dooku, Dooku could barely keep up even though all Yoda was trying to do was disarm him.

And Fisto has better speed feats, and this is entirely a discussion about speed.

Originally posted by Selenial
Yes, and Yoda didn't want to kill or maim him. He wanted a chance to talk, like they did in Dark Rendezvous. And the thing is he as blitzing Dooku, Dooku could barely keep up even though all Yoda was trying to do was disarm him.

And Fisto has better speed feats, and this is entirely a discussion about speed.


In script and novelization Yoda was clearly attacking Dooku in his vital body parts in both fights. In film Yoda had his talk and then he attacked Dooku, not other way around. Your claim that Yoda only tried to disarm Dooku is completely unsupported. Moreover, there is no reason for Yoda not to want to maim Dooku in the universe, where body parts are easily replaced with prosthetics.

Originally posted by Arhael
In script and novelization Yoda was clearly attacking Dooku in his vital body parts in both fights. In film Yoda had his talk and then he attacked Dooku, not other way around. Your claim that Yoda only tried to disarm Dooku is completely unsupported. Moreover, there is no reason for Yoda not to want to maim Dooku in the universe, where body parts are easily replaced with prosthetics.

Then please explain why he didn't once attack with the force, or why multiple sources state he was holding back.

Hell, he was even (according to the insider) being reckless against Dooku, putting himself at too much risk, as they say he couldn't dare risk going that speed against Palpatine who could easily counter and capitalise on those mistakes.

Well, yeah. Palpatine's the sort of guy where one mistake is your last. So is Dooku, typically, but if a master fencer is too slow to take advantage of errors, that says a lot.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Dooku and Kenobi are going to get speed blitzed. Awesome a Makashi duelist as Dooku is, he's got maybe 3 or 4 seconds against his master.

3-4 seconds?

Dooku would last at least 30 seconds against Sidious.

Originally posted by Selenial
Then please explain why he didn't once attack with the force, or why multiple sources state he was holding back.

Firstly he did attack Dooku Once with the Force. A Force Lightning deflection aimed right at Dooku's face. Second he was assessing Dooku's power level and seeing if he had truly turned to the Darkside: "Powerful you have become Dooku.. Hmm the Dark Side I sense in you. "

Kindly post these Canon sources which state Yoda was holding back once they started clashing Sabers.

Originally posted by Board Walker
In terms of purely saber dueling, no force powers.

Revan>Yoda>Sidious>Anakin>Dooku>Mace Windu>Kenobi

You might need to reorganize that. IMO this is how I put them.

Yoda>/=Sidious>Dooku>/=Windu>Anakin>Kenobi>Revan

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Agreed. 👆