Originally posted by FrothByte
You really think QS if fast enough to catch bullets in mid flight? Or fast enough to time travel or phase through objects?
Avenger's Quicksilver watched bullets in flight several times. And moved so fast everything around him was frozen in time.
Let's not act like Barry can time travel whenever he wants. Even Eobard isn't that fast yet.
Originally posted by KingD19
Avenger's Quicksilver watched bullets in flight several times. And moved so fast everything around him was frozen in time.Let's not act like Barry can time travel whenever he wants. Even Eobard isn't that fast yet.
Let me rephrase. Do you think QS is fast enough to catch up to bullets even after they've been fired or have the potential (if he pushes himself hard) to phase through matter or travel through time?
Originally posted by KingD19
Avenger's Quicksilver watched bullets in flight several times. And moved so fast everything around him was frozen in time.Let's not act like Barry can time travel whenever he wants. Even Eobard isn't that fast yet.
...so basically you support the fact that WS and Cap are severely outclassed by Flash??
Originally posted by KingD19'
This has nothing to do with comics. In The Flash so far, Firestorm has been nothing but a short range flamethrower with a jetpack thrown in. The only transmutation he's shown so far is actually fusing from Ronnie and Professor Stein.
regardless hes more than enough to beat people like falcon and widow...dude can fly and shoot fire...
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
What feat of Firestorm is that impressive? I put him in here as someone to keep Falcon from soloing.
How'd Falcon solo?
Anyway Team 2 can win but Cap's team appears to have the advantage. While Flash could solo, the absurd amount of CIS would probably keep him from doing so. Firestorm is ultimately a glass cannon and Arrow wouldn't really stand much of a chance against Bucky or Cap.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
confirmed dumbass. Faster than lightning means faster than light... Ignored.
You have no way to counter any of my arguments so you make a factually incorrect statement. The light from lightning travels at the speed of light. The bolt itself doesn't move anywhere close to as fast. Air conditions can cause variations, but the actual bolt typically moves at about 3,700 miles per second. Speed of light = 186 282.397 miles per second. Facts > you.
So concession accepted and I am not wasting more time on you.
Also, would just like to point out to people constantly bringing up "in character" to hamstring Barry. In character, as people have mentioned, Barry performs at his highest when the threat is particularly serious, friends are in danger etc. Friends like Oliver and Ronnie, who are in the match. So, if Barry performs towards his higher end, in character, when friends are in danger, and friends will be in danger in this match, logically it stands to reason that an "in character" Barry would be operating at his higher levels for this fight.
Originally posted by KingD19
Well in Thor 2 Mjolnir was racing around the planet in seconds.
And, so what? The hammer clearly doesn't always move at the same speed, unless you are suggesting that Kurse has hypersonic reflexes, because he has managed to deflect a hammer toss before? And I know you wouldn't make a claim like that.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
He also got shot in the arm by friendly fire. In comparison, Barry caught a bullet coming from behind, aimed at his neck.
He got shot by friendly fire because he was paying attention to the hundreds of murder bots swarming the city and thought one of the soldiers was still shooting at the Ultron Drones.
Also he watched the bullet as it grazed him. Could he have stopped it? From the speed he was looking at it, yes. But it was comedic effect.
Originally posted by KingD19
He got shot by friendly fire because he was paying attention to the hundreds of murder bots swarming the city and thought one of the soldiers was still shooting at the Ultron Drones.
And Barry had his back turned and was focused on the teleporter girl, and caught a bullet behind his head without even looking.
Originally posted by KingD19
Also he watched the bullet as it grazed him. Could he have stopped it? From the speed he was looking at it, yes. But it was comedic effect.
No he didn't. I have watched the movie twice in 3D and once in 2D, so I know it pretty well by now. He was charging forward with his arm outstretched and got a through-and-through (or it looks and sounds like it). He then stops to look at it, and then back at the person who shot him, annoyed. It is impressive though that it didn't seem to affect him at all for the remainder of the battle. I do know he was charging forward and not looking at his arm.
Point is, Barry has multiple bullet catching feats by now. Any bullet catching by QS is pure speculation. And also, not seeing the point here. QS outclasses anyone on Team Cap here, by leagues, in terms of speed as well. Only time someone landed a hit was when he was disorientated after grabbing Mjolnir and got flung, and he easily blitzed Ultron, Cap and Hawkeye.
So even if we go as far as saying Barry and QS are close to equals, that STILL puts Barry well above anyone here's ability to fight.