Loki vs Obi-wan Kenobi

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda was there to kil the emperor.

You can use force powers to defeat someone without killing them. You have no excuse and insert your own supported fanboyish answers. Jango was giving just as good as he was getting.

Precognition ??? There weren't ever billions vs. the Jedi in any single situation. Even the numbers they were killed it was easily done save Yoda who reacted and then went with the wookees.

Thor uses skill left and right. He can rely on his power but only the hulk fights like the brute you describe.

Nah, Loki outs him down. Loki,10/10.

😐 And why are you bringing Yoda into this?

Yet, Obi-Wan chose not to use them. Jedi rarely use the Force offensively, anyway. Not that it matters in this case. If Jango wasn't getting his ass beat, why did he run away like a little *****?

They were tired from the endless fighting and didn't expect their own to turn on them. Every scene of Order 66 showed multiple clones shooting a single Jedi from behind.

Really? Show me some of Thor's skill and explain why opponents of similar power dominate him every time.

Originally posted by Psychotron
😐 And why are you bringing Yoda into this?

Yet, Obi-Wan chose not to use them. Jedi rarely use the Force offensively, anyway. Not that it matters in this case. If Jango wasn't getting his ass beat, why did he run away like a little *****?

They were tired from the endless fighting and didn't expect their own to turn on them. Every scene of Order 66 showed multiple clones shooting a single Jedi from behind.

Really? Show me some of Thor's skill and explain why opponents of similar power dominate him every time.

Obi did use his force peers during their fight to get his saber back. It failed.

Jango was leaving as soon as he realized a Jedi was there. Obis mission was to bring him in. Jango didn't want to attract any unwanted attention.

Precog ? Guess it failed. They were eradicated and quite easily. Clones>>>Jedi order.

Watch the films in which he uses his hammer in various skillful ways. No, he doesn't. He also took on the Hulk who'd kill Obi with a mere flick of his fingers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda failed. Glad you concede.

Obi did use his force peers during their fight to get his saber back. It failed.

Jango was leaving as soon as he realized a Jedi was there. Obis mission was to bring him in. Jango didn't want to attract any unwanted attention.

Precog ? Guess it failed. They were eradicated and quite easily. Clones>>>Jedi order.

Watch the films in which he uses his hammer in various skillful ways. No, he doesn't. He also took on the Hulk who'd kill Obi with a mere flick of his fingers.

What does this have to do with Obi-Wan vs Loki?

Offensively, retard. And I didn't say never.

And he screwed up because Obi-Wan trailed him, the Republic attacked his base leading to him getting raped by Mace Windu.

Their force powers were exhausted and didn't expect the betrayal. Not to mention that the Jedi's clairvoyance was blocked by the Dark side. So yeah, a few million clones can shoot a few thousand Jedi in the back under those circumstances.

lol, spinning it around isn't skill. Blocking attacks from a 4-armed cyborg? That's skill. Thor survived against Hulk due to his power, it had nothing to do with skill.

Originally posted by Psychotron
What does this have to do with Obi-Wan vs Loki?

Offensively, retard. And I didn't say never.

And he screwed up because Obi-Wan trailed him, the Republic attacked his base leading to him getting raped by Mace Windu.

Their force powers were exhausted and didn't expect the betrayal. Not to mention that the Jedi's clairvoyance was blocked by the Dark side. So yeah, a few million clones can shoot a few thousand Jedi in the back under those circumstances.

lol, spinning it around isn't skill. Blocking attacks from a 4-armed cyborg? That's skill. Thor survived against Hulk due to his power, it had nothing to do with skill.

So now you want to ignore him using his force powers and make up excuses you can't prove

He eventually died but come on. Obi was held prisoner prior to this so don't act like he played his hand perfectly. He didn't. Windu showed up and even he needed aid against this shitty droid army.

Skill in a sword fight. Thor doesn't use a sword he uses a magical hammer in which he is extremely skilled with. Thor used his skill against the hulk since the hulk was obviously stronger and more physically impressive.

Thor decimated the shield agents powerless aka skill.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You conceded just let it go.

So now you want to ignore him using his force powers and make up excuses you can't prove

He eventually died but come on. Obi was held prisoner prior to this so don't act like he played his hand perfectly. He didn't. Windu showed up and even he needed aid against this shitty droid army.

Skill in a sword fight. Thor doesn't use a sword he uses a magical hammer in which he is extremely skilled with. Thor used his skill against the hulk since the hulk was obviously stronger and more physically impressive.

Thor decimated the shield agents powerless aka skill.

I don't remember arguing it. So why are you bringing it up? Did you finally lose your mind for good?

Do you understand what the word offensively means, Quan?

He didn't, but he still won. And this is pre-prime Kenobi, RotS is significantly better.

Alright, now give me examples of this vaunted skill. Cause all I saw was a braw. Maybe a bob and weave from Thor once, and a retarded attempt for a choke hold. Hulk was still getting the better of him. Kurse and Ultron dominated him too. In comparison Obi-Wan fought and defeated multiple opponents who were physically stronger than him via sheer skill and intelligence.

The featsless shield agents.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I don't remember arguing it. So why are you bringing it up? Did you finally lose your mind for good?

Do you understand what the word offensively means, Quan?

He didn't, but he still won. And this is pre-prime Kenobi, RotS is significantly better.

Alright, now give me examples of this vaunted skill. Cause all I saw was a braw. Maybe a bob and weave from Thor once, and a retarded attempt for a choke hold. Hulk was still getting the better of him. Kurse and Ultron dominated him too. In comparison Obi-Wan fought and defeated multiple opponents who were physically stronger than him via sheer skill and intelligence.

The featsless shield agents.

I understand that you speculate. He did use his force powers in battle to aid him. Didn't quite work out that way. 😉

Excuses. They stalemated. Despite force powers and a saber he was unable to best him.

Hulk is stronger and can take more damage but Thor tagged him left and right. He also can dodge and use great skill with his hammer. Do you feel that is unskilled with his hammer ?

Your point ? They'd dominate Obi as well. Obi hurt his leg kicking grievous.

Thor still showed skill while powerless. What has Obi done while powerless ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your low self esteem won't let this go.

I understand that you speculate. He did use his force powers in battle to aid him. Didn't quite work out that way. 😉

Excuses. They stalemated. Despite force powers and a saber he was unable to best him.

Hulk is stronger and can take more damage but Thor tagged him left and right. He also can dodge and use great skill with his hammer. Do you feel that is unskilled with his hammer ?

Your point ? They'd dominate Obi as well. Obi hurt his leg kicking grievous.

Thor still showed skill while powerless. What has Obi done while powerless ?

It's not my fault you're so incompetent you can't even read anymore.

Never said he wouldn't use them to aid himself, but Yoda specifically points out Jedi don't use the Force to attack in ESB. Watch the movies some time.

Nah, Obi-Wan came back for more while Jango fled. That's it. Mace Windu wrecked him even harder.

Hulk tagged him as well, if Thor was so skilled a lumbering brute like Hulk wouldn't have tagged him at all. Not to mention that Thor only landed one good hit on the Hulk.

Yeah, because of their power. We're talking about skill here.

Originally posted by Psychotron
It's not my fault you're so incompetent you can't even read anymore.

Never said he wouldn't use them to aid himself, but Yoda specifically points out Jedi don't use the Force to attack in ESB. Watch the movies some time.

Nah, Obi-Wan came back for more while Jango fled. That's it. Mace Windu wrecked him even harder.

Hulk tagged him as well, if Thor was so skilled a lumbering brute like Hulk wouldn't have tagged him at all. Not to mention that Thor only landed one good hit on the Hulk.

Yeah, because of their power. We're talking about skill here.

So you say they won't do so in character thus undermining your own point. 😂

due to Jango wanting to leave and Obi wanting to capture him. Jango got his way.

Windu win but the beast damages his jet pack so whatever. It wasn't even a clean win and even Windu had to jump away from Jango when they first crossed paths.

Thor is skilled but Hulk is a pretty quick and powerful brute.

Thor is highly skilled in his hammer use just as the Jedi are skilled with the saber. You pretending he isn't is just you being a fanboy.

Thor was powerless and still did so thus showing without power he's still a force. Something Obi has never proven.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are very upset. 😂

So you say they won't do so in character thus undermining your own point. 😂

due to Jango wanting to leave and Obi wanting to capture him. Jango got his way.

Windu win but the beast damages his jet pack so whatever. It wasn't even a clean win and even Windu had to jump away from Jango when they first crossed paths.

Thor is skilled but Hulk is a pretty quick and powerful brute.

Thor is highly skilled in his hammer use just as the Jedi are skilled with the saber. You pretending he isn't is just you being a fanboy.

Thor was powerless and still did so thus showing without power he's still a force. Something Obi has never proven.

Why would I be upsed about you screwing up? It's kinda funny really.

No. Notice I said rarely. Obi-Wan has used the Force offensively. Even Yoda has used it against Sidious.

By getting trailed and later beheaded? What a great bounty hunter. No wonder Boba got killed by a blind man.

Dodging his flamethrower is a smart move. If Jango wasn't a moron that beast would have never damaged his jetpack.

But a brute nonetheless. You can bet someone like Captain America wouldn't have gotten tagged so easily.

You keep saying that but you've provided absolutely no proof. Show me a skill feat equal to Obi-Wan blocking hits from a physically more powerful opponent armed with 4 sabers and casually disarming him.

Yeah, great. Powerless Thor is better than some nobodies. Meanwhile, Obi-Wan is still a master swordsman without the Force. Thor is superior to Loki, anyway. IDK what you're trying to prove.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Why would I be upsed about you screwing up? It's kinda funny really.

No. Notice I said rarely. Obi-Wan has used the Force offensively. Even Yoda has used it against Sidious.

By getting trailed and later beheaded? What a great bounty hunter. No wonder Boba got killed by a blind man.

Dodging his flamethrower is a smart move. If Jango wasn't a moron that beast would have never damaged his jetpack.

But a brute nonetheless. You can bet someone like Captain America wouldn't have gotten tagged so easily.

You keep saying that but you've provided absolutely no proof. Show me a skill feat equal to Obi-Wan blocking hits from a physically more powerful opponent armed with 4 sabers and casually disarming him.

Yeah, great. Powerless Thor is better than some nobodies. Meanwhile, Obi-Wan is still a master swordsman without the Force. Thor is superior to Loki, anyway. IDK what you're trying to prove.

So then you admit it isn't a rule. We see Obi use the force tk his saber back. Saying he should have used it offensively is speculating. Facts are facts.

Boba wasn't as good as the original and I don't think he was that great. Like was unable to best him though.

Jango was not a moron. That was outside his control and he killed the beast. Windu beat an opponent whose equipment was disabled by another. Not a clean win. Context.

Cap is more agile than Thor is but that doesn't mean Thor doesn't have exceptional skill.

Watch thor's feats throughout the films with the hammer. If you deny he is skilled with the hammer you're about as biased as it gets.

He relies on the force to amp his physicality and you say precognition so that also greatly enhances his swordmanship.

So powerless Thor stomps Obi.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You conceded. Move on.

So then you admit it isn't a rule. We see Obi use the force tk his saber back. Saying he should have used it offensively is speculating. Facts are facts.

Boba wasn't as good as the original and I don't think he was that great. Like was unable to best him though.

Jango was not a moron. That was outside his control and he killed the beast. Windu beat an opponent whose equipment was disabled by another. Not a clean win. Context.

Cap is more agile than Thor is but that doesn't mean Thor doesn't have exceptional skill.

Watch thor's feats throughout the films with the hammer. If you deny he is skilled with the hammer you're about as biased as it gets.

He relies on the force to amp his physicality and you say precognition so that also greatly enhances his swordmanship.

So powerless Thor stomps Obi.

Concede what? We never had an argument in the first place, retard.

No, it's not a rule. It's a philosophy. Try watching the movies. I'm not speculating, we've seen him use it offensively (against Grevious for example), he just chose not to. Probably because he was whooping Jango's candy ass anyway.

When did Luke fight Boba?

So, when Jango disarms Obi-Wan with the help of his son and a space ship, that's fine. But when Jango f*cks up in the middle of a battle, that's not clean?

Yes, it does. At dodging if nothing else.

Provide some proof like I did. Otherwise, your words mean nothing.

True, but he still has his technical skills without the Force.

Lol, no. Powerless Obi-Wan would RAPE Powerless Thor.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Concede what? We never had an argument in the first place, retard.

No, it's not a rule. It's a philosophy. Try watching the movies. I'm not speculating, we've seen him use it offensively (against Grevious for example), he just chose not to. Probably because he was whooping Jango's candy ass anyway.

When did Luke fight Boba?

So, when Jango disarms Obi-Wan with the help of his son and a space ship, that's fine. But when Jango f*cks up in the middle of a battle, that's not clean?

Yes, it does. At dodging if nothing else.

Provide some proof like I did. Otherwise, your words mean nothing.

True, but he still has his technical skills without the Force.

Lol, no. Powerless Obi-Wan would RAPE Powerless Thor.

Speculation. He killed grievous so acting like he's too above using the force but would rather force push and use a laser gun is ridiculous.

Did you miss return of the Jedi ?

Jango disarms him on his own. Boba attacks afterwards. Watch the clip. Your ignorance offends my greater sensibilities.

Watch the films.

What now ?

He needs the force and his skills are derived from the force. That's what makes the Jedi special, sport.

Based on what feats from powerless obi.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The name calling shows you are getting defensive which adds validity to my claim.

Speculation. He killed grievous so acting like he's too above using the force but would rather force push and use a laser gun is ridiculous.

Did you miss return of the Jedi ?

Jango disarms him on his own. Boba attacks afterwards. Watch the clip. Your ignorance offends my greater sensibilities.

Watch the films.

What now ?

He needs the force and his skills are derived from the force. That's what makes the Jedi special, sport.

Based on what feats from powerless obi.

Too bad your claim was never in the argument to begin with.

Obi-Wan wasn't there to kill Jango. Your point is moot.

As I recall Boba showed up, got his blaster cut in half by Luke, tried to tie Luke up with his rope/grapling hook, Luke cut that shit and left him lying face first on the floor while Luke went on to fight some other guys. Oh, and then he got killed by a blind man. He's sucks as much as his dad did.

Yeah, and if Boba hadn't kept him off-balance Obi-Wan could have gotten his lightsaber back. Not to mention that this weaker and unarmed Obi-Wan casually disarmed Jango.

I have, Thor is unskilled unless you can provide proof like I did.

He still has his combat SKILLS and EXPERIENCE without the Force.

His skills were used in tandem with the Force. Jedi don't forget to fight if they're cut from the Force.

Powerless Obi-Wan doesn't exist in the movies, but if you put Obi-Wan armed just a lightsaber and no Force powers against a powerless Thor armed with a hammer, Obi-Wan would rape him.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Too bad your claim was never in the argument to begin with.

Obi-Wan wasn't there to kill Jango. Your point is moot.

As I recall Boba showed up, got his blaster cut in half by Luke, tried to tie Luke up with his rope/grapling hook, Luke cut that shit and left him lying face first on the floor while Luke went on to fight some other guys. Oh, and then he got killed by a blind man. He's sucks as much as his dad did.

Yeah, and if Boba hadn't kept him off-balance Obi-Wan could have gotten his lightsaber back. Not to mention that this weaker and unarmed Obi-Wan casually disarmed Jango.

I have, Thor is unskilled unless you can provide proof like I did.

He still has his combat SKILLS and EXPERIENCE without the Force.

His skills were used in tandem with the Force. Jedi don't forget to fight if they're cut from the Force.

Powerless Obi-Wan doesn't exist in the movies, but if you put Obi-Wan armed just a lightsaber and no Force powers against a powerless Thor armed with a hammer, Obi-Wan would rape him.

Speculation. You can't say that. We see Jango disarmed him with one attack. Fact. Boba was not involved throughout the majority of their fight. Was Ohio able to best him ? Nah.

Proof is in the films. His various feats with his hammer prove he's skilled with it. Suggesting Thor is unskilled with his own hammer actually shows me retardation on your end because that's always been his portrayal from the start.

Exactly. He has no powerless feats so suggesting he wins is based off nothing. Boom.

🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it was. You just gave it further validity with your tantrums.

Speculation. You can't say that. We see Jango disarmed him with one attack. Fact. Boba was not involved throughout the majority of their fight. Was Ohio able to best him ? Nah.

Proof is in the films. His various feats with his hammer prove he's skilled with it. Suggesting Thor is unskilled with his own hammer actually shows me retardation on your end because that's always been his portrayal from the start.

Exactly. He has no powerless feats so suggesting he wins is based off nothing. Boom.

🙂

No, it wasn't. I never mentioned Yoda. Your grasp of reality is loosening with every post.

Yes, I can. Otherwise what would have stopped Obi-Wan from gettng his saber back. More to the point, Jango had massive assistance in the form of a space ship. And he still ran away like the coward that he is.

If he has so many feats, why don't you post any of them? Put your money where your mouth is. Could it be that that you're bullshitting as always?

Sword skills aren't directly related to the Force, unless you think real world swordsmen are secretly Jedi.

BTW, Thor has no bearing on this matchup since he is >>> Loki.

Originally posted by Psychotron
No, it wasn't. I never mentioned Yoda. Your grasp of reality is loosening with every post.

Yes, I can. Otherwise what would have stopped Obi-Wan from gettng his saber back. More to the point, Jango had massive assistance in the form of a space ship. And he still ran away like the coward that he is.

If he has so many feats, why don't you post any of them? Put your money where your mouth is. Could it be that that you're bullshitting as always?

Sword skills aren't directly related to the Force, unless you think real world swordsmen are secretly Jedi.

BTW, Thor has no bearing on this matchup since he is >>> Loki.

You are speculating. He tried to get it back and Jango stopped him. Jango wasn't there to kill him. He wanted to leave and did so. Obi was unable to best him despite his force powers.

Watch the films. I'm not YouTube hunting to back the obvious. He's skilled as **** with his hammer. Saying otherwise is demonstrating an ignorance on the character to the point I don't take you seriously.

Loki is also >>>>>>>Obi.

Obi is nothing to Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your emotions give way before me. Again.

You are speculating. He tried to get it back and Jango stopped him. Jango wasn't there to kill him. He wanted to leave and did so. Obi was unable to best him despite his force powers.

Watch the films. I'm not YouTube hunting to back the obvious. He's skilled as **** with his hammer. Saying otherwise is demonstrating an ignorance on the character to the point I don't take you seriously.

Loki is also >>>>>>>Obi.

Obi is nothing to Thor.

Stop trying to twist the issue, Quan. You're just not very intelligent and you get confused easily. You made a mistake. Accept it already.

Yeah. After getting almost shot by turbolasers. You've got it backwards, Obi-Wan was there to get to the bottom of things, and did so by following Jango. Which also led to Jango's death, too.

Well, nobody takes you seriously, and yet that doesn't stop you from shitposting. Anyway, you wouldn't have to "hunt" if Thor's skill was as pronounced as you say. I can easily provide multiple examples of Obi-Wan's skill. I have already used some of them. Now it's your turn to do so, or admit you're full of shit.

Nope. Loki is a chump.

Thor is more powerful. Obi-Wan is considerably more skilled.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Stop trying to twist the issue, Quan. You're just not very intelligent and you get confused easily. You made a mistake. Accept it already.

Yeah. After getting almost shot by turbolasers. You've got it backwards, Obi-Wan was there to get to the bottom of things, and did so by following Jango. Which also led to Jango's death, too.

Well, nobody takes you seriously, and yet that doesn't stop you from shitposting. Anyway, you wouldn't have to "hunt" if Thor's skill was as pronounced as you say. I can easily provide multiple examples of Obi-Wan's skill. I have already used some of them. Now it's your turn to do so, or admit you're full of shit.

Nope. Loki is a chump.

Thor is more powerful. Obi-Wan is considerably more skilled.

Obi got himself captured and needed saving. Just because he had the Jedi order, Yoda, and a clone army show up does not prove anything by what Obi did. Lol!!!

You obviously do or else you wouldn't respond over and over again. 😂

So now you're trying to switch the goalpost and agree he is skilled. Hahahahaha.

Obis skill relies on the force and has to do with sword fighting which is completely different than someone who relies on a supernatural hammer.

No, they are skilled in completely separate aspects. Your brain being unable to admit these obvious truths makes it clear you're dense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This from the guy who said prove Thor is skilled with his hammer. Lol!!!!!

Obi got himself captured and needed saving. Just because he had the Jedi order, Yoda, and a clone army show up does not prove anything by what Obi did. Lol!!!

You obviously do or else you wouldn't respond over and over again. 😂

So now you're trying to switch the goalpost and agree he is skilled. Hahahahaha.

Obis skill relies on the force and has to do with sword fighting which is completely different than someone who relies on a supernatural hammer.

No, they are skilled in completely separate aspects. Your brain being unable to admit these obvious truths makes it clear you're dense.

Yes, and you still haven't managed to do that. Pretty pathetic.

Did Jango flee? He fled. Did Jango die? He died. Obi-Wan won.

Nah, I'm just bored at work. Watching you make a fool of yourself is entertaining.

No? Can't you read?

No. Obi-Wan's speed, strength, precog, etc rely on the Force, but his swordsmanship is all his own.

So provide some examples of that skill, because all I see is a brawler who's been outfought regularly.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yes, and you still haven't managed to do that. Pretty pathetic.

Did Jango flee? He fled. Did Jango die? He died. Obi-Wan won.

Nah, I'm just bored at work. Watching you make a fool of yourself is entertaining.

No? Can't you read?

No. Obi-Wan's speed, strength, precog, etc rely on the Force, but his swordsmanship is all his own.

So provide some examples of that skill, because all I see is a brawler who's been outfought regularly.

You are ignoring the context. Obi did not kill Jango. Obi was also rescued because on his own he got captured. Dumb move. Lucky for Obi yoda and the clones showed up to save a group of jedis about to be overwhelmed by droids who are forceless. 😂

You're a massive clod who doesn't know what he's saying or doing most of the time.

His reflexes, speed, and sword skills are still force amped.

Being outfought doesn't mean you lack skill. Dooku roasted Obi so by your narrow and retarded views to Dooku his skills are shit. I'm smarter than you.