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This is ROTS Sidious and dooku vs ROTS yoda windu kolar tinn and fisto correct?
Well Sidious kills kolar tinn and fisto in the first 10 seconds while dooku has been pushed agaisn't a wall trying to handle the combined might of windu and yoda. Before the final bow was struck Sidious threw out a powerful force push knocking them over. Dooku then quickly gets to his masters side leaving it a Sidious vs Yoda and Windu vs Dooku. With this the battles would be very close. If this is on even playing field I don't find it hard to believe palaptine could either beat yoda or stall him. With that dooku would have a hard time taking out windu, the same going for windu. Essentially Sidious would resort to his force powers and take windu out of the competiom and dooku would then help Sidious with his own power in the force or saber skills to eventually take yoda out.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
This is ROTS Sidious and dooku vs ROTS yoda windu kolar tinn and fisto correct?Well Sidious kills kolar tinn and fisto in the first 10 seconds while dooku has been pushed agaisn't a wall trying to handle the combined might of windu and yoda. Before the final bow was struck Sidious threw out a powerful force push knocking them over. Dooku then quickly gets to his masters side leaving it a Sidious vs Yoda and Windu vs Dooku. With this the battles would be very close. If this is on even playing field I don't find it hard to believe palaptine could either beat yoda or stall him. With that dooku would have a hard time taking out windu, the same going for windu. Essentially Sidious would resort to his force powers and take windu out of the competiom and dooku would then help Sidious with his own power in the force or saber skills to eventually take yoda out.
Okay
A. There's absolutely no way Sidious and Dooku can take Yoda, Windu, Kit Fisto, Agen Kolar, and Tiin. That's a rofl stomp because Yoda won't just sit by and let Sidious cut down Tiin, Kolar, and Fisto.
B. This thread is Fisto, Kolar, and Tiin no Windu as that'd be a stomp in favor of the Jedi.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
OkayA. There's absolutely no way Sidious and Dooku can take Yoda, Windu, Kit Fisto, Agen Kolar, and Tiin. That's a rofl stomp because Yoda won't just sit by and let Sidious cut down Tiin, Kolar, and Fisto.
B. This thread is Fisto, Kolar, and Tiin no Windu as that'd be a stomp in favor of the Jedi.
Well Sidious can definitely can take out kolar tinn and fisto quickly leaving the last four and team vs team battle.
Ok my bad,. With that the SITH team win relatively easily. As Sidious can destroy kolar and tinn as seen in the movie and dooku can take out the last one but has to worry about yoda but then throws him towards yoda and he and Sidious both attack yoda. How would it be a stomp. Sidious could speed blitz everyone except yoda no Sidious quickly and then Sidious can handle yoda and dooku can handle windu. So either way the SITH win.
Without Mace?
Sith win, through mismatching. Dooku engages Yoda...as we see in Attack of the Clones, Yoda won't stomp him...but Sidious WILL Stomp the B team with style. After that, Yoda holds little hope of standing.
In the next round, same mismatch, only now it's Kenobi and the B Team. Kenobi can do nothing for his allies, and Soresu only prolongs the inevitable so long.
Originally posted by Angelalex242
Without Mace?Sith win, through mismatching. Dooku engages Yoda...as we see in Attack of the Clones, Yoda won't stomp him...but Sidious WILL Stomp the B team with style. After that, Yoda holds little hope of standing.
In the next round, same mismatch, only now it's Kenobi and the B Team. Kenobi can do nothing for his allies, and Soresu only prolongs the inevitable so long.
Why the hell would Yoda let the Sith pick the opponents? He has full knowledge of both Sidious and Dooku's ability. He's not Windu, he's fast enough to intercept Sidious.
or just intercepts Sidious like this.
Dooku's not going to take the B team by himself. I feel like Mace put that team together expecting to face a power no greater than Dooku (why would he expect any different -- he has no point of reference really). Those 3 might suffer losses but they'd win eventually.
Yoda alone is enough to beat RotS Sids on neutral ground. Which is why Jedi win.
Sith team wins with Kenobi though. That's almost overkill.
Originally posted by Hero of Python
Dooku's not going to take the B team by himself. I feel like Mace put that team together expecting to face a power no greater than Dooku (why would he expect any different -- he has no point of reference really). Those 3 might suffer losses but they'd win eventually.Yoda alone is enough to beat RotS Sids on neutral ground. Which is why Jedi win.
Sith team wins with Kenobi though. That's almost overkill.
Well he definitely can take on two of them and win. Also Sidious can just speed blitz the three with dooku killing fisto with little difficulty and with that Sidious would already be engaging yoda. I'm not sure how they would fair on equal ground as the battle ground was against Sidious. In the force yoda can't handle Sidious and dooku .
Kenobi I don't see making a big difference. He just gets ragdolled.
The Sith do have a chance. Dooku can hold off Yoda briefly while Sidious blitzes the Jedi and comes back for Yoda's head.
Otherwise, they'd lose. Dooku can't take on all three at once, and won't have a chance to use his Force powers. The Jedi kill him and help Yoda slay Sidious.
Whoever gets Obi-Wan definitely wins.
Originally posted by SunRazer
The Sith do have a chance. Dooku can hold off Yoda briefly while Sidious blitzes the Jedi and comes back for Yoda's head.Otherwise, they'd lose. Dooku can't take on all three at once, and won't have a chance to use his Force powers. The Jedi kill him and help Yoda slay Sidious.
Whoever gets Obi-Wan definitely wins.
Dooku can fight yoda for as long as he did in the AOTC possibly a minute more which is plenty of time for Sidious to blitz the other three. He can take on any of the two by himself. While Sidious kills takes out the other in 1 second and dooku can take those two out while yoda and sidious were fighting.
Whoever gets obi wan? Tinn and kolar still get blitzed leaving fisto and obi wan vs Sidious while dooku is fighting yoda. Dooku can hold off yoda long enough for Sidious to kill obi and fisto so with that the SITH win.
Originally posted by Angelalex242
So then. Because the Jedi favor 'normal match' and the Sith favor 'mismatch'...Who controls the match? Can Dooku serve as a wall for Sidious, or can Yoda get around him and try to save the B Team from getting speed blitzed. (Theoretically, Yoda could blitz the B Team as easily, so there's that...)
Hmm that's a good question. Here's how I view it:
Reasons the Jedi control the match:
They outnumber their opponents two to one.
Yoda is likely the fastest on the field.
The Trio can defeat Dooku.
Reasons the Sith control the match:
The Sith have better offensive force powers
Sidious can score a kill early on which would prove to be disastrous to the Jedi defeating Dooku
Dooku can hold off Yoda
Interesting arguments so far. Everyone is in character though, so assuming Sidious charges at the B-Team, unlike Windu I think Yoda is fast enough to intercept Sidious before he can rofl stom the team.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Hmm that's a good question. Here's how I view it:Reasons the Jedi control the match:
They outnumber their opponents two to one.
Yoda is likely the fastest on the field.
The Trio can defeat Dooku.Reasons the Sith control the match:
The Sith have better offensive force powers
Sidious can score a kill early on which would prove to be disastrous to the Jedi defeating Dooku
Dooku can hold off YodaInteresting arguments so far. Everyone is in character though, so assuming Sidious charges at the B-Team, unlike Windu I think Yoda is fast enough to intercept Sidious before he can rofl stom the team.
Agree with the last part. Windu had to warm up, so to speak, just to keep up with Sids. Doubt Sids gets his blitz on with Yoda around to check him.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Hmm that's a good question. Here's how I view it:Reasons the Jedi control the match:
They outnumber their opponents two to one.
Yoda is likely the fastest on the field.
The Trio can defeat Dooku.Reasons the Sith control the match:
The Sith have better offensive force powers
Sidious can score a kill early on which would prove to be disastrous to the Jedi defeating Dooku
Dooku can hold off YodaInteresting arguments so far. Everyone is in character though, so assuming Sidious charges at the B-Team, unlike Windu I think Yoda is fast enough to intercept Sidious before he can rofl stom the team.
Based on this and everyone knowing there skill level and what we seen isn't Sidious the faster one. I'm probably wrong but here's how I see it. Numbers doesn't mean anything. Let us re watch Sidious vs four highly celebrated Jedi and took out three in a matter of seconds or how dooku can take on many night brothers easily, and defeat anakin and obi wan many times, and taking on sora bulq and Tholme and winning, savage oppress and vs tress vs dooku. So you see numbers won't mean anything to the SITH. As for him blitzing them he could also use his force lighting if he has to while dooku can hold off yoda. With yoda distracted Sidious can easily dispatch the other three with either the force or his saber skills.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Sidious?
1. Yoda pretty easily intercepts him when he tries to escape on Coruscant.
2. Yoda seemed to be dominating their duel in the Senate.
3. Yoda dodged several of those Senate pods being tossed at him at once, where as Sidious struggled to dodge one (albeit that pod was moving slightly faster than the others).
4. Yoda being able to dodge 3 celebrated swordsmen including Legends!Depa without so much as moving a meter, whilst unarmed is more impressive to me than simply killing an inferior team.