McGonagall, Snape, and Bellatrix vs Voldemort

Started by EmperorSidious28 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
When does anyone allude to that ? Your interpretation isn't a fact. It also shows her incompetence even by your own conclusions. Molly killed her. Your excuse making bias isn't a fact.

Dobby easily disarmed her and Molly killed her. Her killing Sirius black when he wasn't paying attention is not impressive.

This is not interpretation. This is fact. Look at her wiki and you will see this. Also how this my interpretation, she clearly had Molly beat then what happened? She had her beat and underestimated her. This is fact. She is far form incompetent. She was going up against some one we hadn't seen fight ever and some one no one ever expected to do that, a house wife basically. Molly killed her due to her being overcomfident.

Do u is a house elf, and then who killed him again. Due to her being over confident. That was never brought up, but they were planned to fight and bellatrix won.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
This is not interpretation. This is fact. Look at her wiki and you will see this. Also how this my interpretation, she clearly had Molly beat then what happened? She had her beat and underestimated her. This is fact. She is far form incompetent. She was going up against some one we hadn't seen fight ever and some one no one ever expected to do that, a house wife basically. Molly killed her due to her being overcomfident.

Do u is a house elf, and then who killed him again. Due to her being over confident. That was never brought up, but they were planned to fight and bellatrix won.

Wiki isn't fact. Anyone can add something in. If it isn't supported in the film then it's an interpretation someone submitted on wiki.

Molly killed her. Continue to repeat yourself. A fact is a fact.

Dobby let her go. She threw a knife into the apparition and he died. Dobby easily disarmed her and that's winning in the wizarding world.

Molly won and killed. Canon.

Yeah gonna go with Quan here. If people could take down Voldermort by ganking him like that why didn't they just do that to begin with? (I guess horcruxes)

But you'd need Dumbledore present and a few other high tier wizards. I don't think those three would cut it.

Because for the most part HP wizards are a bunch of cowards that would never even think of defending themselves, they'd rather run away or cower and beg for mercy.

McGonagall, snape, belatrix and the one true wizard George Weasly take down voldermort in an action packed comedy of spells and dance with death

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Yeah gonna go with Quan here. If people could take down Voldermort by ganking him like that why didn't they just do that to begin with? (I guess horcruxes)

But you'd need Dumbledore present and a few other high tier wizards. I don't think those three would cut it.

Basically dumbledore stale mating voldemort means that anyone who is on dumbledores level of skill can stalemate Tom. However other than voldemort is no one else. Now add in three people who are right below dumbledore and voldmeort(if he is a level10 they are level 9). Add Mcgonagll Snape and Bellatrix up against voldemort who has no horcruxes, do you believe that they could win at all, I'm asking for your opinion.

lets not forget george

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Basically dumbledore stale mating voldemort means that anyone who is on dumbledores level of skill can stalemate Tom. However other than voldemort is no one else. Now add in three people who are right below dumbledore and voldmeort(if he is a level10 they are level 9). Add Mcgonagll Snape and Bellatrix up against voldemort who has no horcruxes, do you believe that they could win at all, I'm asking for your opinion.
He said these three wouldn't cut it. He already gave it. Re read the post since you missed it the first time.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Yeah gonna go with Quan here. If people could take down Voldermort by ganking him like that why didn't they just do that to begin with? (I guess horcruxes)

But you'd need Dumbledore present and a few other high tier wizards. I don't think those three would cut it.

You gotta remember tho, Voldemort wasn't alone. He surrounded himself with wizards so "ganging up on him" wasn't really an option for the people opposing him. They would have to get thru his army first

Voldemort was taking on Slughirn, McGonagall, and Kinglsey all at once and was winning...

Now while Snape is likely far better than any of those three, I don't think even he could tip the scales to his team's favor.

Originally posted by juggerman
You gotta remember tho, Voldemort wasn't alone. He surrounded himself with wizards so "ganging up on him" wasn't really an option for the people opposing him. They would have to get thru his army first
No one had the balls to even look at him the wrong way. They were scared shitless of him. They had good reason to be.

Originally posted by ares834
Voldemort was taking on Slughirn, McGonagall, and Kinglsey all at once and was winning...

Now while Snape is likely far better than any of those three, I don't think even he could tip the scales to his team's favor.

I remember him doing something like that in the book but idk if he did in the movie

Originally posted by quanchi112
No one had the balls to even look at him the wrong way. They were scared shitless of him. They had good reason to be.

Just pointing out that it wasn't an option even if someone did think of it.

Originally posted by ares834
Voldemort was taking on Slughirn, McGonagall, and Kinglsey all at once and was winning...

Now while Snape is likely far better than any of those three, I don't think even he could tip the scales to his team's favor.

I tried using that too but Quran said No book feats.

Originally posted by juggerman
Just pointing out that it wasn't an option even if someone did think of it.
Why wouldn't it be ? They were too scared of the consequences. That is the reason.

Originally posted by ares834
Voldemort was taking on Slughirn, McGonagall, and Kinglsey all at once and was winning...

Now while Snape is likely far better than any of those three, I don't think even he could tip the scales to his team's favor.

The duel between those 4, they were able to pressure him and he only won when bellatrix was killed by Molly weasley thus going into a rage, however he couldn't overcome them. I agree snape is better than the two former with the exception of mcgonagll in my opinion. I believe mcgonagall to be the superior of the two but not by much. With that you have those two and then add bellatrix into the mix, snape and bellatrix are superior to Kingsley and Hoarace so the stakes are higher and most likely agaisn't voldmeort. However I believe whoever wins is going to be tired.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why wouldn't it be ? They were too scared of the consequences. That is the reason.

He did have an army of people defending him, more like thousands of death eaters and when everyone was dispersed and fighting mcgonagll attempted to fight him by herself but then Kingsley and Horace fought as well and he was pressured. I agree with juggerman as its hard to get to the man when he has thousands of followers protecting him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No one had the balls to even look at him the wrong way. They were scared shitless of him. They had good reason to be.

What did mcgonagall do in Harry Potter and the deathly Hallows part 2. She said his name as the only person who said it without fear was dumbledore someone who is above him. So this proves that not everyone was afraid of him. He was fierce however.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He did have an army of people defending him, more like thousands of death eaters and when everyone was dispersed and fighting mcgonagll attempted to fight him by herself but then Kingsley and Horace fought as well and he was pressured. I agree with juggerman as its hard to get to the man when he has thousands of followers protecting him.
So everywhere he went he had thousands defending him ? GTFO. Movie feats only.

In gof he mocked all of his followers and he was just by himself. They all backed down out of fear. They were all petrified of him.

Movie feats ONLY.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
The duel between those 4, they were able to pressure him and he only won when bellatrix was killed by Molly weasley thus going into a rage, however he couldn't overcome them. I agree snape is better than the two former with the exception of mcgonagll in my opinion. I believe mcgonagall to be the superior of the two but not by much. With that you have those two and then add bellatrix into the mix, snape and bellatrix are superior to Kingsley and Hoarace so the stakes are higher and most likely agaisn't voldmeort. However I believe whoever wins is going to be tired.

So he won…

And once again Snape is superior to McGonagall. Just look at what he is capable of. As a kid he was inventing potent spells and perfecting magical techniques, he was (along with Voldemort) capable of using magic that broke the known magical laws, he shit stomped Harry, and most impressively he was able to better contain Vodelmort’s curse than even Dumbledore. Seriously, Snape is shown to be a far better wizard than McGonagall.