McGonagall, Snape, and Bellatrix vs Voldemort

Originally posted by quanchi112
So everywhere he went he had thousands defending him ? GTFO. Movie feats only.

In gof he mocked all of his followers and he was just by himself. They all backed down out of fear. They were all petrified of him.

Movie feats ONLY.

The only time he went into a full scale war we saw him in. As seen in the movies he had his thousands of deatheaters attacking while he stayed up on the hill with his death eaters and then went to the boathouse when his horcruxes were getting destroyed.

And that proves what. Those are his followers people blindly loyal to him and then Lucius spoke them as if they were almost equal. Well he did attack there mask and you bow to your lord. Lucius didn't seem petrified. Also in that seen Harry took him on without fear. He came from behind the stone and said have it your way then and then attacked first.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
What did mcgonagall do in Harry Potter and the deathly Hallows part 2. She said his name as the only person who said it without fear was dumbledore someone who is above him. So this proves that not everyone was afraid of him. He was fierce however.

Originally posted by ares834
So he won…

And once again Snape is superior to McGonagall. Just look at what he is capable of. As a kid he was inventing potent spells and perfecting magical techniques, he was (along with Voldemort) capable of using magic that broke the known magical laws, he shit stomped Harry, and most impressively he was able to better contain Vodelmort’s curse than even Dumbledore. Seriously, Snape is shown to be a far better wizard than McGonagall.

He still one yes.

Opinion not proven. Well mcgonagall isnt shown as much him using magic. However, stomping Harry Potter, for someone who has way more experience then him definitely has a definite edge and stomping him not a big feat. Also as a kid he was stomped by James potter someone who mcgonagall could stomp. Also she has way more experience. There is no way to say who is more powerful as neither has movie feats to show one is better than the or he or if the two were to fight it would be a stomp. She definitely has more experience with transfiguration. Being able to contain a spell like that, was with a potion not a magic spell also, you don't think dumbledore couldn't make that potion, he was the potions master for heavens sake. So no real way to say who is better, but both are close.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it showed he was coming to kill them anyways so why shy away from saying his name at this point. Your comprehension is appalling. Are you a kid ?

Professor flitwick a dueling champion shied away from saying his name. Maybe I am maybe I'm not all depends on what age you depend a kid is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it showed he was coming to kill them anyways so why shy away from saying his name at this point. Your comprehension is appalling. Are you a kid ?

My point is mcgonagall is not a coward as she led the charge agaisn't voldmeort once dumbledore was out of the way. She basically became the new head once he was gone and snape fled the castle.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Professor flitwick a dueling champion shied away from saying his name. Maybe I am maybe I'm not all depends on what age you depend a kid is.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
My point is mcgonagall is not a coward as she led the charge agaisn't voldmeort once dumbledore was out of the way. She basically became the new head once he was gone and snape fled the castle.

🙂

Cowardly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Movies only. Your posts suggest you are a child when I look at your spelling and your reasoning.

He is still dueling champion as he is the charms master and is definitely proficient in dueling. Maybe I am maybe I'm not, it's up to you to decide.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He is still dueling champion as he is the charms master and is definitely proficient in dueling. Maybe I am maybe I'm not, it's up to you to decide.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She said he's going to try to kill you either way. When he showed up later she stood there while he made his demands. She didn't say shit to his face.

🙂

Cowardly.

Harr was dead someone she had made a close relationship, and now he's dead that stuns you. Also didn't he have the backing of at least half his army while what she had was mostly students. So here is where that backing of several showes up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already decided you're a kid. His skill isn't anywhere near Voldemort's level.

None of their skills are on his level alone. However if voldmeort is a level 10 snape and mcgonagall are both high level 9 and bellatrix is either a mid 9 or high 8. However put all of them together and you have created a force no wizard without horcruxes should take lightly. By themselves snape and mcgonagall can possibly hold off Voldmelrt for a short time, add the two together and then put in bellatrix and voldmeort and no horcruxes, the team has a definitle chance. If you think I'm a kid I don't really care.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Harr was dead someone she had made a close relationship, and now he's dead that stuns you. Also didn't he have the backing of at least half his army while what she had was mostly students. So here is where that backing of several showes up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She looked on in horror. Neville showed courage and we see other than students still back the good guys. After Harry got up many deatheaters left. Voldemort still fought on. He's courageous and doesn't need to be backed to do his thing. She showed cowardice and had ample time to speak up. Neville showed courage while the ***** stood there; horrified.

She looked at that Harry was dead. Neville showed courage true, so this furthers my point that not everyone is afraid. Also if Neville who we see scared and alone for the majority of the series if he showed courage, why is it hard for you to believe that mcgonaagll someone who was in the same house, has more magical power and experience, why would she be scared. Yea because he wanted to kill Harry, noticed bellatrix stayed because she was loyal death eaters left for one of two reasons, 1) we saw you kill potter why is he still alive, you might not be as powerful as we think 2) potter got some type of edge over everyone. 1 seems the most likely and the most true however they did t know he was a horcruxes no one did. Notice he apparated away from everyone else instead of just running through everyone else blasting through them. Why would she need to first off. You are lucky that book feats don't count.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
She looked at that Harry was dead. Neville showed courage true, so this furthers my point that not everyone is afraid. Also if Neville who we see scared and alone for the majority of the series if he showed courage, why is it hard for you to believe that mcgonaagll someone who was in the same house, has more magical power and experience, why would she be scared. Yea because he wanted to kill Harry, noticed bellatrix stayed because she was loyal death eaters left for one of two reasons, 1) we saw you kill potter why is he still alive, you might not be as powerful as we think 2) potter got some type of edge over everyone. 1 seems the most likely and the most true however they did t know he was a horcruxes no one did. Notice he apparated away from everyone else instead of just running through everyone else blasting through them. Why would she need to first off. You are lucky that book feats don't count.

Harry left. He knocked Neville out. 😂

He was there for Harry and found him. Quit saying childish, dumb things. Actually no since I'm arguing movies only. My conclusions are based off the films only, fanboy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Neville was afraid but he showed courage. That's the definition of courage. She just stood there and let Voldemort berate everyone.

Harry left. He knocked Neville out. 😂

He was there for Harry and found him. Quit saying childish, dumb things. Actually no since I'm arguing movies only. My conclusions are based off the films only, fanboy.

Yes he knocked Neville out because Neville came up to him with a sword. Also are you saying that everyone is a coward.

I know but there are things in the books that would put this to rest however movie feats only. You try to put them on the movies. However she is no coward and just because you stand silent it doesn't make you a coward. So by your own logic, Ginny, Ron, hermione, Seamus, all the teachers, filch, and everyone else is a coward when they aren't. They are stunned by the death of Harry. Did you see hagrids face. He was stunned and shocked by Harry's Death. Also when they zoned into mcgonagalls face it was after he just said Harry is dead and you put your faith in me. She shook her head but didn't say anything out of shock and sadness that someone she cared about was dead.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Neville was afraid but he showed courage. That's the definition of courage. She just stood there and let Voldemort berate everyone.

Harry left. He knocked Neville out. 😂

He was there for Harry and found him. Quit saying childish, dumb things. Actually no since I'm arguing movies only. My conclusions are based off the films only, fanboy.

You are one to call someone a fanboy.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Opinion not proven. Well mcgonagall isnt shown as much him using magic. However, stomping Harry Potter, for someone who has way more experience then him definitely has a definite edge and stomping him not a big feat. Also as a kid he was stomped by James potter someone who mcgonagall could stomp. Also she has way more experience. There is no way to say who is more powerful as neither has movie feats to show one is better than the or he or if the two were to fight it would be a stomp. She definitely has more experience with transfiguration. Being able to contain a spell like that, was with a potion not a magic spell also, you don't think dumbledore couldn't make that potion, he was the potions master for heavens sake. So no real way to say who is better, but both are close.

You do realize what the point of one of these debates is, yes? It’s to provide evidence and feats for said character. And at the end of the day, Snape’s feats are quite simply far better than McGongall. So, in the context of vs. debates, Snape is her superior.

And yes, stomping Harry is a big feat. Harry is prodigiously gifted in dueling and was able to overcome many Deatheaters. Next, temporarily containing the curse is huge. It shows Snape’s incredible knowledge and power. And once again, you’re wrong, as Snape contained it with both spells and a potion not just the latter.

Originally posted by ares834
You do realize what the point of one of these debates is, yes? It’s to provide evidence and feats for said character. And at the end of the day, Snape’s feats are quite simply far better than McGongall. So, in the context of vs. debates, Snape is her superior.

And yes, stomping Harry is a big feat. Harry is prodigiously gifted in dueling and was able to overcome many Deatheaters. Next, temporarily containing the curse is huge. It shows Snape’s incredible knowledge and power. And once again, you’re wrong, as Snape contained it with both spells and a potion not just the latter.

In dueling the bets feats mcgonagall is driving snape out. This is actual dueling. Snakes is being able to deflect her spells and take out the carrows. The battle was inconclusive as one was putting in less effort then the other. Also feats vs actual performance. Someone could show galactic devastation vs someone who didn't yet if they fight and are a stalemate, what does that say. Anyway I stay true that if the two fought McgonagLl would be the victor however not by much as her win would be 6-7/10 as both are powerful and right below dumbledore and Voldmelrt. I'm ok with your opinion but mine is different.

So if dumbledore beat Harry that's a big achievement. Also he is talented but he is not among the best of his era. Like bellatrix snape mcgonagall, he is not on their level. Harry is talented however he isn't with the top dogs. He doesn't even rank in the top 10 of wizards in his universe so no stomping him and being someone of snapes level is not a feat that say you are insanely powerful. Snape is powerful due to his other feats not stomping Harry. Potions don't go with dueling. So are you trying to say snape is better than dumbledore. It was due to a potion that he may have use magical spells to make but it was a potion in the end and could only keep him alive for another year.

Originally posted by ares834
You do realize what the point of one of these debates is, yes? It’s to provide evidence and feats for said character. And at the end of the day, Snape’s feats are quite simply far better than McGongall. So, in the context of vs. debates, Snape is her superior.

And yes, stomping Harry is a big feat. Harry is prodigiously gifted in dueling and was able to overcome many Deatheaters. Next, temporarily containing the curse is huge. It shows Snape’s incredible knowledge and power. And once again, you’re wrong, as Snape contained it with both spells and a potion not just the latter.

Your opinion is your opinion and I understand it, however I believe that Mcgonagall would win out of those two but not by a wide margin.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
In dueling the bets feats mcgonagall is driving snape out. This is actual dueling. Snakes is being able to deflect her spells and take out the carrows. The battle was inconclusive as one was putting in less effort then the other. Also feats vs actual performance. Someone could show galactic devastation vs someone who didn't yet if they fight and are a stalemate, what does that say. Anyway I stay true that if the two fought McgonagLl would be the victor however not by much as her win would be 6-7/10 as both are powerful and right below dumbledore and Voldmelrt. I'm ok with your opinion but mine is different.

So if dumbledore beat Harry that's a big achievement. Also he is talented but he is not among the best of his era. Like bellatrix snape mcgonagall, he is not on their level. Harry is talented however he isn't with the top dogs. He doesn't even rank in the top 10 of wizards in his universe so no stomping him and being someone of snapes level is not a feat that say you are insanely powerful. Snape is powerful due to his other feats not stomping Harry. Potions don't go with dueling. So are you trying to say snape is better than dumbledore. It was due to a potion that he may have use magical spells to make but it was a potion in the end and could only keep him alive for another year.