Originally posted by carver9And yet you argue against the Superboy/Superman showings as if them being KO'ed means anything when they clearly lost the fight. Yet you make exceptions for Maestro.
Here is my post. Maestro dropped Professor Hulk in a couple of hits. Never said ko but PH was struggling to move. His showing against Genis was good as well. Not a ko but it's obvious he was above him and Herald levels. I then state that some of the things that gave Prime a fight wouldn't have happened to Maestro and Superboy is a Prime example of this. Hell, I even gave Prime the majority here.
But let's see how your logic holds up when you specifically know about these two fights:
Originally posted by carver9
There's no proof he was koed though. None whatsoever. Every, and when I say every I mean every, top tier that has faced Prime...I'm talking about your bread and butter top tier, they are still standing. This goes from Superboy, to Martian Manhunter, all the way to Black Adam. He also had a long fight against Ion, someone that I think Maestro would crush (to each his own) and the only reason he gained am advantage was due to him hitting Ion inside of a led building.
Originally posted by carver9
Nice scans Bran...too bad you're going off topic. Like I've said, Prime has done well against teams...that's is not my argument here. I specifically said he has not dropped one 'in a one on one fight' that I'm aware off. Key word, dropped.So Superboy was koed there? Come on Bran. The guy is smiling on the next panel before getting pulled away.
The amount of ****ing goalposts you're moving, and changing arguments, and dropping arguments is absolutely astounding.
This is actually difficult for me to actually put into words. It's just too much shit. You're just turning on a dime everytime you're faced with any opposition.
I don't even know why you're still trying either. Almost everything you said has been wrong.
Originally posted by carver9And why is this the only thing that counts? I mean, yes it's big. But if you're counting Maestro beating Hulk to "NOT A KO" after hitting him with a weapon meant to kill Maestro, then why are you not factoring in in your words "Prime winning against Superman"? Even after you admit this, you still say Prime hasn't dropped anyone.
I never said this. I actually agreed with you and said that you provided evidence of Prime knocking out 3 peeps. The rest of your post wasn't necessary because it wasn't based on our discussion.
Like... I don't know what's going on here. This is actually difficult for me to handle, too much almost. Do you want the last word here Carver or something? You can have it. Just know almost every ****ing thing you said is wrong.
Also who are these heralds Maestro has beaten? Again.
I said that you provided evidence of Prime beating 3 peeps...don't understand why that isn't enough.
Lol...I didn't change my argument once. I started off saying Prime does well against teams but to my recollection, he has not koed anyone worth noting in a one on one fight. Bran, that does not mean EXCLUDE who he has dropped in team battles because if he did drop Superman while he was on a team, it's obvious that would discredit what I said. I gave you your props on your post and even told you that you proved your point; what else do you want from me.?
I do not know what else to tell you bro. You've proven your point. Do you want to continue with this debate because I don't mind. Moral; our argument started off because I said Prime hasn't dropped anyone worth noting in a confrontation. You upped my statement by providing evidence of him defeated 3 peeps worth noting. I give you props, you still continue. 😐 WTF man.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Is it my lack of sleep last night that makes Carver seem really incomprehensiblydumbdifficult right now, or is anyone else getting that as well?This is the worst I've seen him be personally but I'm willing to blame it on lack of sleep.
😂
You're debating against yourself. I've conceded a long time ago.
Originally posted by carver9You're still doing it... why are you still doing it in a post where you "concede"?
I said that you provided evidence of Prime beating 3 peeps...don't understand why that isn't enough.Lol...I didn't change my argument once. I started off saying Prime does well against teams but to my recollection, he has not koed anyone worth noting in a one on one fight. Bran, that does not mean EXCLUDE who he has dropped in team battles because if he did drop Superman while he was on a team, it's obvious that would discredit what I said. I gave you your props on your post and even told you that you proved your point; what else do you want from me.?
I do not know what else to tell you bro. You've proven your point. Do you want to continue with this debate because I don't mind. Moral; our argument started off because I said Prime hasn't dropped anyone worth noting in a confrontation. You upped my statement by providing evidence of him defeated 3 peeps worth noting. I give you props, you still continue. 😐 WTF man.
Originally posted by carver9That explains it. Arguing to argue.
Do you want to continue with this debate because I don't mind.
Also nope. For once I truly do not want to argue with you. You've quanned me good here. You've quanned me good.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You're still doing it... why are you still doing it in a post where you "concede"?That explains it. Arguing to argue.
Also nope. For once I truly do not want to argue with you. You've quanned me good here. You've quanned me good.
😂 😂
Wasn't my intention. Overall you are right. I accept defeat, now can we get off of this lame subject please.
I'm nothing like Quan.
Originally posted by carver9Not that I want to keep this going, but what you're doing is diminishing every other feat in favor of the one thing you know you can't argue. As well as sidestepping everything else said. I'm not talking about you arguing, I'm talking about you specifically doing this. "IT" is this.
😂 😂Wasn't my intention. Overall you are right. I accept defeat, now can we get off of this lame subject please.
I'm nothing like Quan.
Are you wrong because of an addition of numerous feats, or are you wrong solely because of one single showing? IE, the Mon-El, Yat showing
That's all I want to know before I give up on you. Last worded reply to you here for a while anyway...
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Im sensing a gamma meltdown any Time.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...no one here has made me melt down yet and it ain't going to happen either.
Time predicts the future
Originally posted by carver9
I said that you provided evidence of Prime beating 3 peeps...don't understand why that isn't enough.Lol...I didn't change my argument once. I started off saying Prime does well against teams but to my recollection, he has not koed anyone worth noting in a one on one fight. Bran, that does not mean EXCLUDE who he has dropped in team battles because if he did drop Superman while he was on a team, it's obvious that would discredit what I said. I gave you your props on your post and even told you that you proved your point; what else do you want from me.?
I do not know what else to tell you bro. You've proven your point. Do you want to continue with this debate because I don't mind. Moral; our argument started off because I said Prime hasn't dropped anyone worth noting in a confrontation. You upped my statement by providing evidence of him defeated 3 peeps worth noting. I give you props, you still continue. 😐 WTF man.
Comes true.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Not that I want to keep this going, but what you're doing is diminishing every other feat in favor of the one thing you know you can't argue. As well as sidestepping everything else said. I'm not talking about you arguing, I'm talking about you specifically doing this. "IT" is this.Are you wrong because of an addition of numerous feats, or are you wrong solely because of one single showing? IE, the Mon-El, Yat showing
That's all I want to know before I give up on you. Last worded reply to you here for a while anyway...
You were right. My concern was you getting off topic. You posted fts outside of our discussion. I'm asking for characters that has been dropped, not him fighting people and doing well. You provided him taking out the people I proclaimed as him not showing on panel and I'm satisfied and if I could shake hands letting you know you edged me out here...I would. I disagree with SOME of it but the majority of your post was head on.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Let's take a look at this, and retroactively add your argument in here.First off, correct me if I'm wrong, but Maestro did not KO Genis, correct? No need, he didn't. Not only that, but Genis was nowhere near his insane levels there.
And he beat the breaks off of Hulk, which we'll get to a little bit of context later, but he did not KO him. Something which you're faulting SBP for.
In fact, outside of Exiles which I could check I guess, Maestro's only KO victory is due to breaking Hulk's neck.
Which Maestro needed a cheap attack to accomplish:
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Hulk%20-%20Future%20Imperfect%20002-011.jpg.htmlHulk got cheapshotted right before his second fight with Maestro with a weapon that could "kill" Maestro. And Maestro didn't even KO him either in that fight:
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Hulk%20-%20Future%20Imperfect%20002-030.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Hulk%20-%20Future%20Imperfect%20002-031.jpg.htmlAnd Maestro dies to a gamma bomb. Something later Hulks can utterly tank. Hulks who you're using in your post to show how much superior Maestro is to them:
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Hulk%20-%20Future%20Imperfect%20002-045.jpg.htmlSo, even following your logic, Maestro has no KO victories in one on one fights, and no KO victories in team battles. Everyone knows his one KO victory is due to a cheap attack, and thus by Carver law, it doesn't count.
So I ask you Carver, why the need to lowball Prime? Because Maestro has nothing?
Why is Maestro impressive when everything you've used against Prime would indicate Maestro is pathetic?
