Originally posted by riv6672It doesn't matter what I compare it to. That feat is beyond every single Hulk feat put together.
Image isnt loading for me but...i'll take your word for it.😛Its cool that you compare the Celestials feat to a feat accomplished by a Hulk who wasnt the strongest ever seen though...🙂
And the Crossroads feat was purely because Hulk was fighting Ironclad (giant pussy) at an interdimensional crossroads. The first scan even says it. There were pockets in the Crossroads that were turning both of them into kids too. It was not a stable place.
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Even Vector was able to repel 'everything' in the Crossroads
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Yet, what is left out is that Vector became a prisoner of a mere world's winds throwing the planet back in that same issue:
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It's a good feat. But it is utterly eclipsed by anything of approaching skyfather let alone abstract. Hell, who he was fighting there tells the entire story. Ironclad, who at that moment was acting as an equal to Hulk. Hulk later easily beat him in the same issue without the same collateral damage.
And if you're using this as a Hulk feat, then it's equally halved by Ironclad, who you might as well be saying COULD BE above Celestial level. 😬
Originally posted by riv6672What feats does Hulk have that combined are higher than physically splitting a universe into a full fledged multiverse? If you're going to continue making bold statements, then I'm afraid you're going to have to start backing it up at one point in time, or admit you're wrong.
Of course it matters what you're comparing it to, and no it isnt.
What it is though, in its own rambling stubborn way, as you try so hard to lowball a physical being with comparisons to Celestials, is proof that Hulk's rep is legit, which is the point of the thread.
So, thank you. 👆
I'm not lowballing anything. You making excuses for your inadequacies does not reflect on me. Hulk not being Celestial level is not lowballing him. It's merely stating a fact. And the fact that you tried to twist this "lowballing" around to try and make Hulk look good makes you calling my points lowballing look nonsensical in comparison. 😬
But that makes literally no sense. If Hulk is weaker than Celestials, then he is weaker than a whole host of other things. IE, not even close to the strongest in the universe.
Here is the original OP in case you forgot.
Originally posted by riv6672
Which character, in their respective Universe, has been shown to live up to their tag line (fastest man alive, strongest one there is) the best?
Who's really earned their reputation?Take in all feats/stories/high and low end showings since their debuts:
Which is funny considering you want low showings, but then you cry about me "lowballing" Hulk because I don't think he's stronger than Celestials?
But anyway, if Hulk is not the strongest, then he is not living up to his reputation, now is he?
But that's also a deflection on your part. You think me merely comparing the two falls into part of your plan, but it doesn't. Instead of admitting this little sequence is wrong:
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So what Carver is saying is that Hulk is stronger than Celestials and Galactus?
Originally posted by riv6672
He could be. Hulk i mean.
You think everything falls into your trap.
It does not. Not only do the Celestials being far superior to Hulk diminish his reputation as "the strongest in the universe", but it also means you yourself are wrong. And Celestials being contrasted to Hulk would in no way raise his reputation in this thread, considering it utterly disproves the whole purpose of the thread in the first place, IE, Hulk is the strongest one there is.
Which means Flash wins in a rep off. It's that simple.
I'm using Celestials because they fall under "there is", and it's an easy answer to show Hulk's tagline is wrong. I could go lower and say Odin is also stronger if you want. I'm sure Zeus would make for a funny discussion.
What i think is, you've been biased on this subject a LONG time.
I was doing a Google search on Celestials/Hulk just now, and an old KMC thread from 2007 came up: Hulk vs Celestial.
Your first post...
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Wow...NO! HULK doesn't stand a chance... at all!
People wonder why Hulk gets so much hate, and yet, it's this very same shit that people try to pull that do it.
Hulk gets killed... really, pointless.
But hey, thanks for all your input, and your opinion on Flash having the more deserving rep. You're a real mensch.
Originally posted by riv6672So me being possibly biased in your opinion does what? Diminishes my words? How can you equate this into anything I say?
What i think is, you've been biased on this subject a LONG time.
I was doing a Google search on Celestials/Hulk just now, and an old KMC thread from 2007 came up: Hulk vs Celestial.
Your first post......shows you've been bitter about this since well before i got here.
But hey, thanks for all your input, and your opinion on Flash having the more deserving rep. You're a real mensch.
But yes, I agree with everything you just quoted. Not that that proves I'm harboring grudges. 😂
Though I think you failing to answer a completely reasonable post just because of a completely reasonable post made in 2007 (when Devilhulk kept making socks about how Hulk was the best) kind of says who's bitter about what. I've been stewing for 8 years because someone put Hulk against a Celestial. 😂
It's not really an opinion though. It's a fact. The amount of people that are stronger than Hulk outweigh the amount of people that are even close to Flash's speed. Ergo, Flash's rep is more intact. You created a thread with one answer.
Good job on the deflection attempt. 👆
The more things you completely abandon, the more solid your case is.
Yes I am the troll. Here's your post
Originally posted by riv6672
The fact that Hulk has no upper limit.I've actually seen you ask this before, and no answer satisfied you, so, thats as far as i'm going to get into it. Too hot where i'm at for a prolonged circular argument.
Since that post we have you being too stubborn to accept anything. Too stubborn to concede even though you've dropped every point. And you've resorted to using an "8 year old" post in an attempt to troll me and projected your butthurt onto me. Because it's a well known fact I've been actively campaigning against those Hulk>Celestial posters the entire time.
Or I brought up the Celestials/Galactus as a barrier Hulk can't surpass. Then you thought maybe Hulk could surpass that, and now you're trying to deflect your utter inability to even attempt to tackle a point onto my longstanding rivarly with Hulk.
I don't even get how people get to these levels of mental gymnastics. First Hulk is stronger but I'm too stubborn. Next proving Hulk is weaker actually helps Hulk in this thread in some unexplained way. Next it's actually a Hulk downplaying attempt in order to rise up the Celestials.
In reality it literally doesn't matter because you can't even begin to remember what your thread is about.
Whether I love Celestials or hate Hulk that does nothing to diminish what I'm saying.
Whether Celestial feats are even close to Hulk's or not but still greater, that only hurts Hulk's chances in this thread.
And you being stubborn still is not on topic.
You whine so much about people dragging your threads off topic, yet when someone is completely on topic but you don't like the result you lash out like a candyless baby.
If Hulk is weaker than Celestials then that means he's weaker than thousands of beings within his own universe. That is the point. Your head is apparently on the same level as where it speaks of vb codes.
If Hulk is weaker than thousands of people then his reputation as the strongest one there is is a lie. The Flashes on the other hand only have a handful of rivals in their speed area.
It's not a tough concept. You do this everytime you make a shitty thread. Maybe make a good thread next time. Maybe don't act like a petulant child when you're proven wrong too. But tell me more about how this all boils down with my Celestial vs Hulk feud because you found a really old post. 😂
While you're at it, you should find the old zopzop threads where he's defending Celestials and I'm against him. Maybe show I also hate Celestials while you're at it 👆
For a guy who never actually has anything to add to anything, you sure get uppity about others.
This is a no contest for The Flash, who usually ALWAYS lives up to his "fastest man alive" claim. If he doesn't he's usually in the top 2-3.
Even Hulk's best feats..you have more then 2-3 people with vastly superior strength feats.
Though especially since you are allowing Wally West feats...yeah, this hilariously goes in the favor of Flash.
Originally posted by Surtur
This is a no contest for The Flash, who usually ALWAYS lives up to his "fastest man alive" claim. If he doesn't he's usually in the top 2-3.Even Hulk's best feats..you have more then 2-3 people with vastly superior strength feats.
Though especially since you are allowing Wally West feats...yeah, this hilariously goes in the favor of Flash.
You admitted a while back that you don't read Hulk. Don't understand why you are posting in here.
Uh so okay? Because it had the power to destroy Celestials that means..what? It is automatically a super tough machine?
Durability feats for the machine? How strong do you feel one needs to be to accomplish what Hulk did?
Originally posted by carver9
You admitted a while back that you don't read Hulk. Don't understand why you are posting in here.
Because for the past decade I've been on various versus sites with various feats trotted out for Hulk. Over and Over. Then this place has a hard on for Hulk, so you see feats brought up a lot for him here as well.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Yes I am the troll. Here's your postSince that post we have you being too stubborn to accept anything. Too stubborn to concede even though you've dropped every point. And you've resorted to using an "8 year old" post in an attempt to troll me and projected your butthurt onto me. Because it's a well known fact I've been actively campaigning against those Hulk>Celestial posters the entire time.
Or I brought up the Celestials/Galactus as a barrier Hulk can't surpass. Then you thought maybe Hulk could surpass that, and now you're trying to deflect your utter inability to even attempt to tackle a point onto my longstanding rivarly with Hulk.
I don't even get how people get to these levels of mental gymnastics. First Hulk is stronger but I'm too stubborn. Next proving Hulk is weaker actually helps Hulk in this thread in some unexplained way. Next it's actually a Hulk downplaying attempt in order to rise up the Celestials.
In reality it literally doesn't matter because you can't even begin to remember what your thread is about.
Whether I love Celestials or hate Hulk that does nothing to diminish what I'm saying.
Whether Celestial feats are even close to Hulk's or not but still greater, that only hurts Hulk's chances in this thread.
And you being stubborn still is not on topic.You whine so much about people dragging your threads off topic, yet when someone is completely on topic but you don't like the result you lash out like a candyless baby.
If Hulk is weaker than Celestials then that means he's weaker than thousands of beings within his own universe. That is the point. Your head is apparently on the same level as where it speaks of vb codes.If Hulk is weaker than thousands of people then his reputation as the strongest one there is is a lie. The Flashes on the other hand only have a handful of rivals in their speed area.
It's not a tough concept. You do this everytime you make a shitty thread. Maybe make a good thread next time. Maybe don't act like a petulant child when you're proven wrong too. But tell me more about how this all boils down with my Celestial vs Hulk feud because you found a really old post. 😂
While you're at it, you should find the old zopzop threads where he's defending Celestials and I'm against him. Maybe show I also hate Celestials while you're at it 👆For a guy who never actually has anything to add to anything, you sure get uppity about others.
Dont waste your time.
