The Flash Vs The Hulk, rep to rep

Originally posted by Surtur
Uh so okay? Because it had the power to destroy Celestials that means..what? It is automatically a super tough machine?

Durability feats for the machine? How strong do you feel one needs to be to accomplish what Hulk did?

Because for the past decade I've been on various versus sites with various feats trotted out for Hulk. Over and Over. Then this place has a hard on for Hulk, so you see feats brought up a lot for him here as well.

This.

It was also designed to withstand the power of the Celestials - that does not mean it is successful, does it?

But, let's stop being coy, carver. Stop teasing me. Is Hulk stronger than a Celestial? Than the entire Celestial race? Y/n?

Originally posted by riv6672
I like that scan Carver posted.
But it begs the question, could the Celestials not destroy it?

If Hulk could destroy it? Any single Celestial has firepower hilariously above Hulk. The only reason I could see a Celestial couldn't destroy it would be due to it being some anti-celestial machine. Sort of like I might be able to destroy a machine made of kryptonite easier then Superman, but it doesn't mean I'm on his level.

But then see, some silly people will take that and say "Hulk is stronger then Celestials lolz!!". Which, I will legitimately be able to make a horcrux afterwards, because seeing someone say that will definitely be taking a piece of my soul and ripping it off.

Originally posted by Surtur
If Hulk could destroy it? Any single Celestial has firepower hilariously above Hulk. The only reason I could see a Celestial couldn't destroy it would be due to it being some anti-celestial machine.

But then see, some silly people will take that and say "Hulk is stronger then Celestials lolz!!".

It was never tested.

I've just designed a bridge that can withstand my power. Unfortunately, I've never tested it. It's made of marshmallows and spaghetti.

Years later, a kid comes along and destroys it.

Does that mean the kid is stronger than me?

By some peoples logic, yes..yes it does mean that.

Originally posted by riv6672
I like that scan Carver posted.
But it begs the question, could the Celestials not destroy it?

It was capable of stopping the Celestial race. Hulk still had the power to destroy said machine. Speaks volumes imo.

So, IOW, nothing to actually trump Wally being faster than abstracts?

Originally posted by carver9
It was capable of stopping the Celestial race. Hulk still had the power to destroy said machine. Speaks volumes imo.

It does, but , DS spaghetti bridge is kind of a good point too, if a bit wasteful of good italian cuisine.
I'd gave to say any machine capable of harnessing and weaponizing the kind of energy it'd take to kill Celestials is apt to be incredibly strong.
I've used lots of fire arms and, you cant fire a bullet more powerful than the barrel can handle.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So, IOW, nothing to actually trump Wally being faster than abstracts?

What Abstract did Flash out race?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So, IOW, nothing to actually trump Wally being faster than abstracts?

Originally posted by carver9
What Abstract did Flash out race?

Death.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Death.

Scans?

Originally posted by riv6672
It does, but , DS spaghetti bridge is kind of a good point too, if a bit wasteful of good italian cuisine.
I'd gave to say any machine capable of harnessing and weaponizing the kind of energy it'd take to kill Celestials is apt to be incredibly strong.
I've used lots of fire arms and, you cant fire a bullet more powerful than the barrel can handle.

True. But then, throughout history, we've seen so many weapons that, upon testing, explode or don't actually perform up to their design specs. Unless that machine has ACTUALLY withstood a Celestials' assault, who's to say that it would have been successful?

But going back to the OP - what Hulk did. Is it replicable by anyone else? If Odin was there, would he have failed where Hulk succeeded? Thanos? Galactus? A fully fed Galactus?

Originally posted by carver9
Scans?

Is this what you meant, DS?

I can't see your scan.

Dang it, we posted back to back!

Originally posted by carver9
Is this a ft contest because if so, I would say it is even. Even though Hulk lose, he does have some of the best strength fts out there. Even though Flash is the fastest he gets tagged almost every time he face someone slower than him. He lose to people far slower than him. So this goes both ways. Even though Hulk is the strongest there is, there are times where he is physically beaten. Even though Flash is the fastest there is, he tends to get dropped by people far slower than him. If it came down to fts, I would say it's even but when it comes to consistency, I would give it to the Hulk.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is not a feat contest. It's about who is portrayed as the best in that attribute in their respective universes. You simply can't compare strength to speed. It's stupid.
Anyway I would say Hulk is the strongest there is due to WBH. His feat was the greatest strength feat in Marvel (quantifiable).

If that is your best feat for Hulk, than no, he's not the strongest.

Joint strongest, with Betty, who was his equal.

Originally posted by riv6672
Is this what you meant, DS?

Yes.

Originally posted by carver9
It was capable of stopping the Celestial race. Hulk still had the power to destroy said machine. Speaks volumes imo.

The Deviants are historically accurate with their assessments of the Celestials:
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/03etern.jpg.html

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/04etern.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/05etern.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/06etern.jpg.html

That's from their first appearance. Jesus. Imagine if I looked harder. Like when the Celestials almost made them extinct.

And it's not like we haven't seen actual super weapons before against the Celestials. The Destroyer which is blessed by every God, and was built to straight up kill the Celestials for instance.
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/Thor_300-17.jpg.html

Here it is farther amped by Odin and the life force of every Asgardian getting no sold and stopped mid swing:
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/Thor_300-28.jpg.html

I trust I don't have to show it getting destroyed when it was claimed to be indestructible in the same showing?

For contrast, let's see how Hulk does against a vastly weaker version of the Destroyer:
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/Hulk461_09b.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/Hulk461_10a.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/Hulk461_11a.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/Hulk461_11b.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/Hulk461_14a.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/Hulk461_14b.jpg.html

Hulk appears quite a bit weaker, no?

Here a no name Celestials beats the Darkwalker, showing it manhandling him at the end:
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/Savage%20Wolverine%20003-004.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/Savage%20Wolverine%20003-005.jpg.html

And Hulk. Surely Hulk doesn't get backhanded out when it's not even looking at Hulk...
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/Savage%20Wolverine%20005-013.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/Savage%20Wolverine%20005-014.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Cosmic/Savage%20Wolverine%20005-015.jpg.html