Date rape nail polish

The nail polish changes color when exposed to a variety of...chemicals.

http://www.newsweek.com/controversy-over-nail-varnish-date-rape-drug-detector-267126

However, the invention has detractors:

“Whilst Undercover Color’s initiative is well meaning, on the whole,” she said, “Rape Crisis does not endorse or promote such a product or anything similar. This is for three reasons: it implies that it’s the woman’s fault and assumes responsibility on her behalf, and detracts from the real issues that arise from sexual violence.”

There's also cards you can use to test whether a drink has been drugged. Of course it can't be the duty of women to carry such things and test every drink they take, but if a woman wants to do that it's good she has the option.

I understand the worry that the lady from Rape Crisis voices, people always put blame on victims and this may be another piece in their arsenal to accuse women of failing to do. Obviously it is 100% the rapist or assaulters fault, and there's no blame to be put on the woman regardless of the circumstances. But that's sadly not how it often plays out.

I think the Rape Crisis spokeswoman is missing the point of the invention. I don't think it really suggests that women are responsible for their rapes at all, or that it's supposed to be the only way to tackle the problem of date rape.

I found it a short sighted reaction on the spokeswoman's part.

I assume her reaction is based on dealing with rape cases and experiencing this blaming of rape victims first hand. So her view may be tainted by that and she wants to proactively come out and reiterate that while this option exists not using it doesn't and shouldn't put any blame on victims (which I'm sure has already happened by now).

Since when is using a preventive something to get in an uproar about?

It'd be like wearing a bullet proof vest unknown to anyone and then getting shot and going "Well I knew I shouldn't have used that thing that saved my life! I was just asking for it!"

It's not like she's showing her vagina off to everyone (which is where this logic stems from) and then going well jeeze it's my fault, she's just secretly trying to prevent getting drugged and raped. Like it or not, rape happens, and simply screaming about how it's bad isn't going to stop it.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Since when is using a preventive something to get in an uproar about?

It'd be like wearing a bullet proof vest unknown to anyone and then getting shot and going "Well I knew I shouldn't have used that thing that saved my life! I was just asking for it!"

It's not like she's showing her vagina off to everyone (which is where this logic stems from) and then going well jeeze it's my fault, she's just secretly trying to prevent getting drugged and raped. Like it or not, rape happens, and simply screaming about how it's bad isn't going to stop it.

I think you got this completely twisted. What she's saying is that "while bullet proof vests are a well meaning approach, the Mugging and Murder Crisis Center does not endorse this product, because of the already prevalent victim blaming of "what can you expect, he should have worn a bullet proof vest, was basically asking for it" attitude that is brought against victims of muggings and shootings"

Originally posted by Bardock42
Of course it can't be the duty of women to carry such things and test every drink they take

but if i suggest to a woman that she carry one of these test kits in her purse, would that also be misogynistic victim blaming?

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think you got this completely twisted. What she's saying is that "while bullet proof vests are a well meaning approach, the Mugging and Murder Crisis Center does not endorse this product, because of the already prevalent victim blaming of "what can you expect, he should have worn a bullet proof vest, was basically asking for it" attitude that is brought against victims of muggings and shootings"

I'm just saying that worrying about victim blaming over preventing rape is retarded. There's no negatives to being prepared like this. No one should victim blame them if they don't use it of course, but like I said, rape happens. Not doing anything isn't a negative but anything that helps is a positive.

I realize they're worrying about the after effects of rape because that's what they do, but they shouldn't turn away products or bring negatives to them just because of the "if you don't use it, you will get drugged and raped" angle.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
but if i suggest to a woman that she carry one of these test kits in her purse, would that also be misogynistic victim blaming?

Not to me, but other people's opinions may vary.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
How does what I said go against anything you said?

I'm just saying that worrying about victim blaming over preventing rape is retarded. There's no negatives to being prepared like this. No one should victim blame them if they don't use it of course, but like I said, rape happens. Not doing anything isn't a negative but anything that helps is a positive.

I realize they're worrying about the after effects of rape because that's what they do, but they shouldn't turn away products or bring negatives to them just because of the "if you don't use it, you will get drugged and raped" angle.

Well, I think for her it's a different question though. She's been talking about why the organisation she works for won't endorse the product, and I can understand why it would take this into consideration.

I'd be interested to know what her other 2 reasons are though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Not to me, but other people's opinions may vary.

Well, I think for her it's a different question though. She's been talking about why the organisation she works for won't endorse the product, and I can understand why it would take this into consideration.

I'd be interested to know what her other 2 reasons are though.

1. The woman's fault
2. Assumes responsibility on her behalf
3. Detracts from the real issues of sexual violence

Which the product does anything but for one.
For two, a preventive does not assume responsibility for the action it's preventing. And for three it's just trying to stop you from experiencing it firsthand. It doesn't detract, it just doesn't cover it... because it's nail polish.

Hence a lot of what I said earlier.

Her reasons seem questionable. Especially for simple nail polish that's only real design is for detecting drugs.

Oh, I thought this was going to be about nail polish that helps me... never mind.

Originally posted by Mindset
Oh, I thought this was going to be about nail polish that helps me... never mind.

Or just coat your fingernails but I'm not sure that's enough.

^^^I just thought of an evil acronym for M& Ms ... 😘

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Since when is using a preventive something to get in an uproar about?

🤨...everyone should learn self defense.

Advising someone to take preventative measures isn't victim blaming. I think this is a good idea, personally. Anything that helps women feel safer is fine with me.

Plus, there's a chance we'll catch a lot more attempted date rapists in the act and there will be more deterrent for these scumbags to try something in the future.

Edit: And any idiot who'd victim blame a woman for not wearing this nail polish to prevent her own date rape would probably find a way to blame her anyway even if this didn't exist.

Men discussing women issues.

Cry me a river. Go pick up a cosmo..

Did everyone here have there balls cut off with Jenner?

So the idea is that she's going to spill her drugged drink on her nails and it they'll change color?