Originally posted by carver9
Blue Marvel admitted Namor gave him a good fight, someone that was said on panel as being nothing to Ikaris. Also, the lowballing of Red Hulk. [/B]
Did you actually see the fight between Namor and Blue marvel? That's like every time Superman says that this guy or the other was the strongest person he ever faced, while going on to beat them handily.
What low balling? Rulk was defeated by Simon with ease. The Red Hulk was consistently being beaten, or made to look far worse than his Loeb era days. So what low balling are you talking about? The only character that the Red Hulk consistently did well against was the Hulk, and that was because Red Hulk had power over gamma mutates.
Originally posted by zopzop Why would Ikaris need to fight BM? Sersi has been shown to be strong enough to two shot KO Immortal Hercules. She stalemated Exodus in a prolonged psiwar. Sersi has protected her teammates while the ENTIRE UNIVERSE blinked out of existence. She's turned people into inert matter to help them survive a GALAXY BUSTING attack. She's easily the most powerful person in the Eternals vs BM/Spectrum fight.
Ikaris was taking on Namor while being blasted by Hammond Torch (look up his respect thread to get an idea of his power level) and he was more than holding his own.
These Eternals are absolutely no joke.
Quasar would insta gimp Spectrum. Let's not kid ourselves. The Quantum Bands operate on a higher level than Monica.
He's brought a Watcher to his knees, absorbed power from a nearby star to create a solar flare that dwarf the Stranger's lab world. He's held off PF Rachel. Stalemated the Silver Surfer. Bubbled up Binary. Shielded a group of Mourners from an IG blast from Thanos. Almost instantly absorbed the Living Laser. I could go on but you get the point. [/B]
What were the conditions behind Sersi? Don't try deception Zop. That wasn't an average Sersi. Quasar had to wrestle against opponents that were energetic, and in this case Monica actually has power, and control over the EM spectrum, and to a considerable degree. Quasar isn't insta beating her. He wins, but not as quickly as you're saying. He never had that much control, at least not on par with the CCR, which pwned the shit out of him and the Q-bands. They aren't as powerful as you're trying to make it out. Also many of the things that Quasar did may have been extremely high showings for him, but then again Rulk overwhelmed beings far above his station as well. The Surfer is easily drained as well. Just because he can power drain, does not mean that he can't be drained. This has happened on more than one occasion.
Neither Ikaris or Sersi are beating Adam. At least not at the moment. Try again when he actually loses to someone on their level. As of now, Adam's average is extremely high, so anything that you say negatively about him is simply wrong.