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The Chosen One
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm not talking about her growing in strength, I'm talking about her stamina and how much energy she gets back after every kill. How much effort do you think it took her to kill each Sith on Malachor? More than she drained from them afterwards? It's a factor that helped her to keep fighting with her replenished force reserves. Also no, she instantly grows in strength after each kill. She isn't slowly siphoning power from them, she drains them at the moment of death.
She does not get revitalized by this in any manner, will the low-balling of this character ever subside here? She gains ever so slightly more power with each death which culminates over months in the return of her power.
Originally posted by Nephthys Every Sith uses anger, that doesn't mean anything. The Wrath wasn't using a berserk rage like Luke or Savage were.
Except that the Wrath constantly uses rage in combat, this is all a moot point though, I see no reason to believe that Nomen Karr is any greater than the self-exiled Jedi High Council members of the Dark Wars.
Originally posted by Nephthys You're making that number up, we have no clue how many Jedi he killed. I know about his ability, it just suggests he relied heavily on that instead of his skills.
He fought Jedi in the Great Sith War, Mandalorian Wars, Jedi Civil War and Dafk Wars, as well as all the years inbetween. He hunted Jedi and killed them for forty years, hardly an exaggeration.
Originally posted by Nephthys I want quotes saying that all of Kun's converts were Force and Lightsaber prodigies. I doubt that's accurate considering Jolee's wife was one as well. Also we have no idea that Sion was actually one of those Jedi, his backstory seems completely at odds with that. Even if all that is true though, I don't care. It still doesn't make him that good. I already said that he was good and powerful. But in the grand scheme of things, he's just average. Hell, he loses to freaking Atton in the restored content.
What? It is well stated that Kun targeted the Jedi Knights with the strongest potential to convert into his students. His KOTOR CG Profile states he was one of Exar Kun's sith warriors during the war, the only genuine Force Users Kun had in his force were those twenty he converted, that was the entire point.
Atton was an elite Sith Assassin in Revan's deadliest unit, he was a master of breaking Jedi and was expert in Echani training, furthermore he was taught combat techniques to the rank of a Jedi Sentinel by Meetra Surik whom had already achieved mastery of combat equal to Traya.
Though thanks for opening the floodgates for Cut Content, bad move Neph.
Originally posted by Nephthys I asked for the quote. I'm not sure if you mean the Kotor campaign guide, but I can't find anything in there and I'm not familiar with any Kotor II guide. In any event, assuming you're describing it accurately it doesn't matter since the Exile didn't encounter Vash. She was dead by the time the Exile reached Korriban.
Kavar isn't as much of a lightsaber virtuoso as the other Jedi masters you've met, but he makes up for this with his extremely potent Force powers.
- Source: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords: Prima Official Game Guide
Both the Exile and Visas Marr sensed Lonna's presence and fall as they landed and then discovered her corpse, your loophole is humorous but hardly valid.
Furthermore cut content does have Meetra meet Lonna Vash.
Originally posted by Nephthys Sith have force speed, imperial guards don't. The Hero's blitz is much more impressive since the Sith couldn't react to her attacks and she cut them down with a single slash each. By contrast, the Imperial Guard's Meetra fought were able to react and block her attacks. She actually had to out-duel them and clearly fought a protracted battle with them since they forced her to retreat.
Imperial Guardsmen as standard are handpicked from the most elite soldier in the Empire and are trained ruthlessly to the point that they are the physical and martial equals of any Sith or Jedi. Their most elite are even better than this, they are better than most Force Users and make Dark Council members quake, most DC members don't even try to fight back. There is no reason to think featless Sith can match an elite Guardsmen in combat.
Yet that fight was only seconds longer than the Vitiate vs Revan fight.
Originally posted by Nephthys Nah. Since she didn't blitz them, it doesn't matter. Most Jedi are fast enough to have fights in the span of seconds too btw.
Her beating them over a span of seconds and not in 30 seconds to a minute is an incredible speed feat. Oh and no Jedi beating such high tier combatants in such a quick manner is not a norm, stop low-balling.
Furthermore when the Wrath encounters Imperial Guardsmen on Yavin IV, he too has a protracted fight. Infact the leaders of both factions make it clear that defeating the Guard would be extremely difficult despite their own numbers.
Originally posted by Nephthys There's nothing that says that Sel Makor specifically worked to make the Nightmare Lands that corrupt. His mere presence could have been enough. I never said that Sel Makor was unprecedented, but he is certainly more powerful than Traya.
Sel Makor in the Nightmare Lands certainly is, but said lands have been vital to his success.
Originally posted by Nephthys That's supposition, Vitiate lowered his defenses. While he may have hampered Sel Makor somewhat, there's nothing suggesting that he couldn't focus on the Wrath. The first thing he does is channel his power and create a dozen Gormak out of thin air for you to fight, he was clearly still immensely powerful and in control. I doubt Vitiate hindered him any more than Kreia's lacking a hand hindered her ability to duel the Exile.
Lowering his defenses does not mean he was not helping the Wrath, he allowed Sel Makor to enter his host body, but there is certainly room for a mental war.
Originally posted by Nephthys Non-force sensitives can walk on Malachor too (Hanharr). The Dread Master's influence is miles greater than that planets and resisting them is a far greater feat of will than just walking on Malachor.
Hanharr was connected to Darth Traya, Jedi Knights either turned to the Dark Side or were killed by the planet. The Dread Master's influence has been thwarted before, it is not infallible as you present it to be.
Originally posted by Nephthys I don't believe Malachor actually killed anyone. The Nightmare Lands are corrupt enough that no-one barring the Hero of Tython can walk into it without performing the rituals protecting their minds. Even Sith are drowned in the darkside. That's more impressive than Malachor where a wookiee can just stroll around on it.
Yes it did, do some basic research. Again, Hanharr was connected to Darth Traya.