Exar Kun vs. Palpatine

Started by The Ellimist44 pages

Sometimes there isn't a trade-off; Palpatine is just superior at everything.

ROTS Sids above Exar Kun. Oh that's ****ing comedy gold there.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
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This schemer nonsense never made sense when Sidious is a master of all seven forms of lightsaber combat and defeated Yoda in combat.


Through superior force power...

Not even. Sids lost the Force battle and won the "I got a handle power". Hell, the on panel evidence shows Yoda owning him in saber combat and in the script he lost his saber in the duel.

Yoda > Sids by far.

Can't tell if serious.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Can't tell if serious.

Deadly serious. Years ago I posted Power DVD scans showing how Yoda had the absolute edge in saber combat. Then I posted the videos showing that every time Yoda expended Force power, Sids couldn't directly counter it. Hell, you can hear the whirling of the engines of the pods as Sids 'lifts' them, because he's just manipulating the controls. Meanwhile, Yoda can deadstop one and send it aloft. Sids can't even handle that; he leaps to the side.

And don't get me started on the DBZ power battle; Yoda ****ed Sids on that hard.

Watch the fight again.

Alright, not serious. mmm

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Alright, not serious. mmm

2008, bro.

Those primitive ideas aren't welcome here any more. 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Those primitive ideas aren't welcome here any more. 👆

You have to read them to dispute them. Hell, the screenies I posted all those years ago are still there.

Yoda is so far above Palpatine that he ran away to spare the old man.

At least respond to his arguments, lol.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Actually, if it came down to a war, Richard Nixon, as commander in chief of the most powerful military to that point in human history, would obviously crush Alexander. And so that's the point; Palpatine may have been a schemer, but he was nonetheless more powerful in combat despite his other gifts.

You've just contradicted yourself and proved my point. Sure, Nixon could call in an air strike, but could he win a sword fight?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
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[QUOTE=15898817]when Sidious is a master of all seven forms of lightsaber combat
According to who? By what objective measurement is Sidious a "master"?
Tenebrous also proclaimed Plagueis a "master" of the lightsaber and Plagueis was amazed by a young Maul's speed and skill.
and defeated Yoda in combat.

And how many Sith did Yoda defeat in combat again?

You see my point. When it comes down to it the PT Jedi/Sith records in combat against each other are pitiful.

All of their supposed power and skill comes from training and sparring in secrecy/ a safe environment.

In the Great Hyperspace War or Exar Kun's time or Revan and Malak's time or TOR, Jedi vs Sith warfare is as common as breakfast. That's the only true way to test and evolve.

Compare and Contrast boys and girls :

Originally posted by Sunrazer
Filoni made it clear Palpatine was enjoying himself (as opposed to the circumstance-ridden duel Kenobi had with the brothers on Floruum where he made use of the environment to get them in each other's way and surprised them by attacking aggressively). On top of that, Filoni stated the brothers couldn't touch him:

Author commentary is fine when it supports Sidious.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Filoni just said in a TCW interview that Palpatine would kick everybody's ass, now Yoda would kick everybody's ass? We're finding more and more stuff to discredit author opinions, tbh. Filoni has a history of stupidity regardless.

Questionable when it doesn't.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Deadly serious. Years ago I posted Power DVD scans showing how Yoda had the absolute edge in saber combat. Then I posted the videos showing that every time Yoda expended Force power, Sids couldn't directly counter it. Hell, you can hear the whirling of the engines of the pods as Sids 'lifts' them, because he's just manipulating the controls. Meanwhile, Yoda can deadstop one and send it aloft. Sids can't even handle that; he leapt to the side.

And don't get me started on the DBZ power battle; Yoda ****ed Sids on that hard.

Watch the fight again.

Crumbs, too bad innumerable sources reach the verdict that Sidious overpowered him. And that Yoda isn't Exar Kun.

As for your suggestion that Sheev can't manipulate senate pods without aid, lmao. 🙂

Palaptine may have 'won' the day, but Yoda was the better combatant - more skilled, possibly more powerful in the Force.

No, he's not more powerful.

It's also contradictory that you think Yoda's more skilled because he "won the day", even though that might've been one of the say, 5 out of ten times that he would've won a saber duel between the two.

That isn't how it works. The authors don't think "hey, this is a 50% scenario, so we'll just write it down". If they want to show a fight that can go either way, they'll write a stalemate, if they make one of them win and it's for a non-external reason(i.e. its through their own skill, or physical capability) then that means said character is simply better.

You're applying forum policy to authors who do not follow it.

Yeah that's pretty retarded. You could say the same about every duel if it's not a stomp.