Exar Kun vs. Palpatine

Started by Beniboybling44 pages

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Palaptine may have 'won' the day, but Yoda was the better combatant - more skilled, possibly more powerful in the Force.
A better combatant? Within the realm of lightsaber combat, very possibly, if not likely. More powerful in the Force? Not according to the latest in Canon, I'm afraid, who are unanimous in Palpatine's praise:
Taken from SW Databank: Darth Sidious

Darth Sidious overwhelmed Master Yoda with the destructive energy of the dark side, and the Jedi Master fled Coruscant.

Taken from SW Databank: Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith Story Gallery

Yoda is eventually outmatched by Sidious.

Taken from Ultimate Star Wars

The full power of the light side and the dark side of the Force are on display during Yoda's clash with Emperor Palpatine. Outmatched, Yoda retreats and waits to train a new champion to lead the fight against evil.

And on that note, and in response for your call for arguments, what proof is there that Kun could outmatch the most powerful Jedi ever, when he was floored by an aging Jedi librarian?

what proof is there that Kun could outmatch the most powerful Jedi ever, when he was floored by an aging Jedi librarian?

Using your fanboy logic, the "aging jedi librarian"> entire senate and force usersin the senate/Qel Droma because Kun was able to freeze them while being knocked on his ass (a force push that didn't do anything to him but facts so..) by the librarian, while also stalemating Ulic in a saber battle. See how stupid that sounds? Didn't think so. What proof is there that Sidious can match Kun's speed, amulet blasts, and unknown saber fighting style? See, I can shift the burden of proof too!

He didn't freeze any of the Force users, seeing as they moved freely, nor did he freeze Qel-Droma who willingly listened to anything Kun had to say.

Heck, he didn't even freeze the Chancellor...

He only froze fodder muggles, yeah.

Is it stated anywhere that Kun's blasts can be simply absorbed using tutaminis? If so, how much strain is the target under?

That is never suggested, Kun's blasts are however pure dark side energy, when Darth Bane attempted to defend against Tendrils, which are also pure dark side energy, it was useless.

Originally posted by MythLord
He didn't freeze any of the Force users, seeing as they moved freely, nor did he freeze Qel-Droma who willingly listened to anything Kun had to say.

Heck, he didn't even freeze the Chancellor...

Right.. So the scans show everyone only able to sit there and awe, aside from moving their eyes. Then the scan shows Kun controlling the chancellor like a puppet. But you're right, of course 😂

Hmm, do you reckon Palps could easily evade them?

Beni, stop lying, Odan-Urr attacked Exar Kun with Force Sever, not Force Push. Him being floored is negated by him not being, y'know, severed.

Dear, was he floored as a result of the actions of an aging Jedi librarian or not?

Force Sever doesn't kinetically knock people back, last I checked.

Wall of Light does, evidently. It even incinerated Yavin when potent enough.

Originally posted by Unbowed
According to who?

The Clone Wars Episode Guide by Jason Fry.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Using your fanboy logic, the "aging jedi librarian"> entire senate and force usersin the senate/Qel Droma because Kun was able to freeze them while being knocked on his ass (a force push that didn't do anything to him but facts so..) by the librarian, while also stalemating Ulic in a saber battle. See how stupid that sounds? Didn't think so. What proof is there that Sidious can match Kun's speed, amulet blasts, and unknown saber fighting style? See, I can shift the burden of proof too!
Quite stupid yes, because I never argued Odan Urr is more powerful than Kun.

But sure, to answer your question, he's a master of all seven forms of lightsaber combat, fought one of the greatest Jedi warriors ever to a stalemate, prior to obliterating three of the era's best, before outmatching Yoda in the Force. Your move. 🙂

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Right.. So the scans show everyone only able to sit there and awe, aside from moving their eyes. Then the scan shows Kun controlling the chancellor like a puppet. But you're right, of course 😂

Yeah... the non-Force sensitive scrubs are sitting in awe, and while he did use the Chancellor as a puppet he did not freeze him, which is my point.

The Chancellor is seen moving pretty damn clearly and even trying to strike at Kun. So yes, I'm right, of course. 👆

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Quite stupid yes, because I never argued Odan Urr is more powerful than Kun.

But sure, to answer your question, he's a master of all seven forms of lightsaber combat, fought one of the greatest Jedi warriors ever to a stalemate, prior to obliterating three of the era's best, before outmatching Yoda in the Force. Your move. 🙂

Add that to the fact that would have ended up dying to Ulic, could only stalemate a tree, only beat Vodo by overpowering him and breaking his staff ( in both of their fights), has no quantifiable speed feats, has never blitzed anyone in his life, as seen when Sylvar attempts to challenge him and the author remarks "Kun has no time for this" implying he couldn't end her instantly, whereas Sidious routinely blitzes Jedi and yeah, Kun dies here.

Yes the point I was trying to make was that in comparison to Sidious outmatching Yoda, Kun's combat feats are rather lacklustre.

Most of that was total bs.

🙄

Do you think Kun wins this Neph?