Whis vs New 52 Superman

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Ok so he did hit him, I didn't see that scan. How is Supes moving faster then flash?

I was not talking about travel speed. Flash never moves back in time in fighting speed feats. I'm talking reaction speeds.

You do know both his running speed and his fighting speed are the same right? That's why he's now ramming into every building when he's running.

Flash has even said he's able to use the Speed Force to augment his brain into moving at FTL speed.

New 52 Superman took on a being that Superman claimed was faster than Flash, and guess what? Once Superman realize that, he put that guy down.

I'll be posting scans in a min.

Originally posted by Decter
Flash was toying with superman at the beginning tho

It's actually safe to assume Flash wasn't going anywhere near his full speed either

He wasn't. He said it was a misunderstanding.

Originally posted by SquallX
You do know both his running speed and his fighting speed are the same right? That's why he's now ramming into every building when he's running.

Flash has even said he's able to use the Speed Force to augment his brain into moving at FTL speed.

New 52 Superman took on a being that Superman claimed was faster than Flash, and guess what? Once Superman realize that, he put that guy down.

Whis is an alien as well, and a massively powerful one. Whp's to say Whis brain is not as fast as Flash though.

If he can fight two SSG's who are >Superman combat speed.

That means Whis > Superman.

^If Superman can tag flash who is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over two SSG + Whis combat speed,
this means
Superman >>>>>>>>> Whis combat speed.

Beat DB fans with their own logic.

What did flash at that point in new 52 even do?

Also flash was toying with him at.......

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Whis is an alien as well, and a massively powerful one. Whp's to say Whis brain is not as fast as Flash though.

If he can fight two SSG's who are >Superman combat speed.

That means Whis > Superman.

That is failed logic.

Anyway, Superman has already beat teleportation speed in Red Hood and the Outlaws.

Back on topic since we all know Flash was holding back.

Ulysses and Superman flies aways from a planet destroying blast.

The planet explodes and Superman is off said planet.

The Shockwaves from said attack (the freaking Shockwaves) along with debris hits Superman.

Lol...the power from the Shockwaves ko him.

Goku has been dishing out power above that since his teen years and he would probably tank said attack during those years as well. Beerus destroys planets with just a portion of his power with marble size blasts and the weakest of Z beings survived a planet exploding on him during near death.

Let's continue... a weakened Superman almost DIES from a Nuke. Nothing was said about his durability dropping but let's assume he was weakened since he just received a bear down from a kryptonian.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125391/4662553-superman-wonder+woman+%282013-%29+006-018.jpg

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Now an argument can be made that he was weakened but lol, Goku at his WEAKEST tanked an attack that leveled a huge island. Vegeta at his WEAKEST tanked a blast that was country size with a smile. Superman isn't on the level of these two. One hit from anyone in DBS would probably kill him. Then let's add this topping.

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Superman tells us he doesn't have the power to destroy a planet. Whis kills him casually. Breath and kill him along with any other Z fighter that is fighting seriously.

Carver you are literally the biggest piece of filth when it comes to low balling comic book characters. Especially when put against youre precious DBZ.

I guess we should also forget that Kal was fighting a 5D Imp that was attacking him in all timelines at the same time, while he was weakened from Kryptonite poisoning.

Or that Kal faced a being that only grows in power with you even thinking about him.

Or Kal was able to survived the energy from a 5D Spear item.

Or was able to shatter the body of one of the Trinities body. Phantom Stranger claimed that was suppose to be impossible.

Took half of the Omega Beams blast. Then we found out that Darkseid was a Multiversal being.

Outraced teleportation in Red Hood and the Outlaws.

Yeah, we should clearly use Kal low showings as way to downplay him.

You're ****ing pathetic.

Also you idiot, a nuke is not just energy being release, it has different properties that normal blast doesn't. A nuke falls in the class of Nuclear Fusion, because a Nuke is a biological weapon.

That's why it's a known fact, that a Nuke is dangerous, but the fall out of said Nuke is 10x worse. The radiation from a nuke can be felt for generations if a person is exposed to the aftermath.

Originally posted by SquallX
Carver you are literally the biggest piece of filth when it comes to low balling comic book characters. Especially when put against youre precious DBZ.

I guess we should also forget that Kal was fighting a 5D Imp that was attacking him in all timelines at the same time, while he was weakened from Kryptonite poisoning.

Or that Kal faced a being that only grows in power with you even thinking about him.

Or Kal was able to survived the energy from a 5D Spear item.

Or was able to shatter the body of one of the Trinities body. Phantom Stranger claimed that was suppose to be impossible.

Took half of the Omega Beams blast. Then we found out that Darkseid was a Multiversal being.

Outraced teleportation in Red Hood and the Outlaws.

Yeah, we should clearly use Kal low showings as way to downplay him.

You're ****ing pathetic.

Also you idiot, a nuke is not just energy being release, it has different properties that normal blast doesn't. A nuke falls in the class of Nuclear Fusion, because a Nuke is a biological weapon.

That's why it's a known fact, that a Nuke is dangerous, but the fall out of said Nuke is 10x worse. The radiation from a nuke can be felt for generations if a person is exposed to the aftermath.

Fighting a 5D imp? He got destroyed by said imp.

Growing in power?

He didn't outrace teleportation but he did make it there pretty fast. Beerus flew from another dimension to DBS Universe in a minute and 20 sec.

Lol...that wasn't a nuclear weapon. Read comics before judging. Superman used Diana sword to split an atom in half.

Any of the Z fighters could take him out with a casual blast and none of the showings you named changed this.

Also, Darkseid koed him with his eye beam. Knocked him out. Diana blocked those same blasts. I'm hoping you bring up the Bracers durability because I have scans for that as well.

YouTube video

HV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laser Gun
Laser Gun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJG Goku

Superman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJG Goku.

It was already explained why the laser hurt him 😐

Carver lowballing Superman? What else is new.

But shitty arguments aside, yes, Whis demolishes Superman now.

Originally posted by SquallX
Also you idiot, a nuke is not just energy being release, it has different properties that normal blast doesn't. A nuke falls in the class of Nuclear Fusion, because a Nuke is a biological weapon.

So much bullshitting here I can't have a genuine converstaion.

**** everyone, I'm out.

Don't leave.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
YouTube video

HV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laser Gun
Laser Gun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJG Goku

Superman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJG Goku.

Depends on a laser gun, actually.

But you're basically saying now that Supes' only chance is a cheapshot from behind 😛

I'll play your game. Goku's universe-busting punch >>>>> Batman's exosuit fist >>>>> Superman's boyscout face 🙂

So what does Goku have to do with Superman vs Whis again?

And since when do low end showings count as evidence?

Precious, lowball Superman so Whis stands a chance and no one cares but lowball Goku and everyone loses their minds.

Hypocrites.

haermm

Or lets pretend no one below Flash's speed can touch Clark......