Oregon Now Allowing 15 yr. olds to get a sex change without parental consent
So yup, I'm hoping whoever wrote this has a gross misunderstanding of the issue because this can't be right.
15 yr. olds can get a sex change without parental consent...AND the state health plan will cover it.
This can't be real can it? Surely they don't expect tax payers to pay for a 15 yr. old kids sex change. Someone tell me this is just FOX news hysteria.
Originally posted by MF DELPH
I don't see how children should be allowed the autonomy to approve life changing surgery like that. Isn't that the whole point of parental consent/guardianship? That children aren't of the age/experience level to consent to things like this? Don't you have to be 18+ to get a tattoo?
Ah but liberals think children do not belong to their parents. Anything goes now.
I don't even understand how they could even expect tax payers to pay for a sex change. That just blows my mind more then anything else. I mean, they tried to give excuses like "we are trying to get less suicides" for why the parental consent isn't needed. I'd love to hear the excuse about why other people need to foot the bill for a totally unnecessary procedure.
Sex changes should not of even been included in the types of procedures that get paid for via the health care plan.
Originally posted by Surtur
I don't even understand how they could even expect tax payers to pay for a sex change. That just blows my mind more then anything else. I mean, they tried to give excuses like "we are trying to get less suicides" for why the parental consent isn't needed. I'd love to hear the excuse about why other people need to foot the bill for a totally unnecessary procedure.Sex changes should not of even been included in the types of procedures that get paid for via the health care plan.
Its the same reason the left wants planned parent hood on the the peoples dime. They lost touch with reality and only their agenda is "right." Doesn't matter how radical it is. progressives always want progress to the left.
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Its been a long LONG time since the "tax payers" have had any say in what their taxes go towards paying. [/B]
I could understand a necessary medical procedure. Even if it was to fix something that isn't life threatening. But holy hell..a sex change?
First of all the age should be 18, and second of all if a person wants a sex change they need to pay for it out of their own pocket.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Ah but liberals think children do not belong to their parents. Anything goes now.
She's talking about the adage "It takes a village to raise a child", not literally that the state should have stewardship over your children. I actually agree with her, at least to the extent that children aren't simply raised by their parents. Other factors like their neighborhood/social environment/access to resources play a role in development as well. I have no quarrel with her.
Originally posted by Jesus McBurger
im all for transgender... but parental consent should still be played in
Not to mention it should be paid for by the person getting the operation, not others. Even if they came out tomorrow and said "they now need parental consent" that just solves half the issue.
On the other hand..any parent who would consent to let a 15 yr. old get a sex change is to me..a bad parent. 15 yr. olds can be stupid as all hell and very few know what they truly want. I'd tell my child(if I had any) that straight up: wait until you are 18. You still want it then? Go for it.
http://koin.com/2015/07/09/headline-irrational-on-oregon-transgender-coverage/
“The age of consent in Oregon has been 15 since 1971,” Burleton said. “It would be a separate but equal implementation of it to say for all other physician- recommended or evidence-based medical care, youth in Oregon can access that at age 15 but for this one they have to wait longer.”In a statement to KOIN 6 News, the Oregon Health Authority said:
“In Oregon, the age of medical consent is 15 or older. Patients should be able to demonstrate the capacity to make a fully informed decision and to give consent to treatment, regardless of age. However, nothing in Oregon law requires a health care provider to provide medical services to a minor or safeguard the confidentiality of a minor. In most cases, providers will encourage (and in some cases require) family engagement and supports unless it would endanger the patient.”
There are also a long list of guidelines that must be met before anyone gets insurance coverage for cross-sex hormone therapy or sex reassignment surgery.
Psychotherapy and medical and surgical treatments for gender dysphoria listed as 413 out of 476 in a list of prioritized health services the Oregon Health Plan will cover.
So — Oregon Medicaid began covering transgender related healthcare in January. For years, the age of medical consent in Oregon has been 15. Combine the 2 and you have the issue some are voicing concerns over, even if it was not an intended outcome of the January change.
part of the requirements for getting the surgery
the transgender person would need to be on hormones for 12 months, live as the intended gender for 12 months, have 2 psychotherapists who deal with transgender issues approve the surgery.. it's not like a someone could just decide this on a whim.. obviously
also interesting:
Oregon’s Health Evidence Review Commission decided to look into coverage for gender dysphoria last year — after a psychiatrist pointed out that the state had lumped it with conditions like pedophilia.“People with gender dysphoria that did not receive treatment had a much higher rate of hospitalizations or ER visits or doctor visits for depression and anxiety,” said commission director, Dr. Ariel Smits.
“And they had a pretty significantly high suicide attempt rate — some studies found about 30 percent. But folks when they received the treatment that they felt was adequate for their gender dysphoria, had an almost normal rate of depression and anxiety compared to the general population.”
Their suicide rate also dropped significantly.
But what about the cost?
“It may cost somewhere in the $100,000 to $200,000 range although these numbers are very vague,” said Smits.
Originally posted by Jesus McBurger
hehe its kinda funny i just imagine a boy leaving his house and coming back and be like "HEY MOM!!! DAD!!!! I HAVE BOOBIES!!!"
Re: Oregon Now Allowing 15 yr. olds to get a sex change without parental consent
Originally posted by Surtur
So yup, I'm hoping whoever wrote this has a gross misunderstanding of the issue because this can't be right.15 yr. olds can get a sex change without parental consent...AND the state health plan will cover it.
This can't be real can it? Surely they don't expect tax payers to pay for a 15 yr. old kids sex change. Someone tell me this is just FOX news hysteria.