Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The main SW canon = movies only. Arguably including TCW.Would be extremely boring if other stuff wasn't discussed. It's even the right forum section to do so.
Err... no, the main canon includes TCW, all comics, novels, and other sources released after the canon split, like the one that is being discussed here. The only exception is when a comic that is released after that point has a Legends banner on it.
I think we are talking more and more Disney "Canon" as we get new material. But for the meantime Legends is the vast majority of the SW literature out there. Especially for the Old Republic era.
And there's nothing wrong with talking about different continuities of books and comics anyway. Especially when there's really only 2 continuities- Legends and Disney Canon. (I guess "Lucas" continuity could be a third which would just be Episodes 1-6, TCW series, SOD and ending with DD).
Originally posted by ZenwolfI still enjoy the mythology and have always said less is usually more. To have all these other encounters cheapens the films in my opinion. I am sure some of you want to see Darth Vader using the force to purge shit from his ass but I don't.
So then why are you here, if you clearly don't like the way the canon portrays the characters?
Originally posted by Zenwolf
But the comics, books and games that are coming out now are canon. Yet you don't seem to wanna talk those?
He's hiding the truth which is that he hates Vader being such a Bad Ass.
If that was Khan doing such incredibly amazing things in Canon NUTrek comics he'd be licking the pages of those comic books. But because it's Vader/Star Wars he's not interested.
Originally posted by ZenwolfBecause the entire fabric of a debate lies in logical consistency, and EU portrayals of characters tend to be wildly inconsistent with that of the films.
I don't get why people have a problem with the EU portrayals just because the movies didn't or were unable to show them.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Because the entire fabric of a debate lies in logical consistency, and EU portrayals of characters tend to be wildly inconsistent with that of the films.
Except the films only tell part of the story, who says that they need to show what they show in the EU in the films?
Narrative and displays of power-level aren't the same thing. As an example, Obi-Wan being a player who ****s 10/10's in the EU but never in the movies can be explained away as the films not showing his life 24 hours a day 7 days a week, and isn't necessarily an inconsistency. Obi-Wan having light-speed reflexes and the ability to outrun sound in the EU would however be an inconsistency with the films, unless you want to assert that every time we see him in the films he's crippled or unable to fight at his maximum efficiency. Otherwise, there are many situations where outrunning sound and having FTL reflexes would have been quite useful.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Narrative and displays of power-level aren't the same thing. As an example, Obi-Wan being a player who ****s 10/10's in the EU but never in the movies can be explained away as the films not showing his life 24 hours a day 7 days a week, and isn't necessarily an inconsistency. Obi-Wan having light-speed reflexes and the ability to outrun sound in the EU would however be an inconsistency with the films, unless you want to assert that every time we see him in the films he's crippled or unable to fight at his maximum efficiency. Otherwise, there are many situations where outrunning sound and having FTL reflexes would have been quite useful.
But seeing as you said we can't follow the characters 24/7 then I don't see why people still have problems.
But it's their views, I just find it strange is all. Anyway, don't wanna derail.