Planned Parenthood Breaks the Law

Originally posted by Bardock42
From your article:

Further the extended video posted by the group makes it clear that the doctor is only talking about storage, shipping, transportation and labor costs, not selling the fetus, which would be illegal (also if they were to sell it the price would be considerably higher).

So the video does not prove at all that anything illegal is going on, it actually suggests more than Planned Parenthood is very cautious about not profiting from the donations of fetuses to scientific research.

Of course these laws should be checked, and generally it's good they are looking into it, but the edited videos for shock value and links, which doesn't show what they say is just disingenuous (the group says it has more videos in the future, perhaps it actually catches wrong doing in some of them, but it seems unlikely, since they probably started with their strongest case, and that didn't show anything illegal).

Too bad for you that this is only the first video released there are at least a dozen more coming out.

Out of those dozen, how many are edited to show an untruth like this one though?

Also, why would you trust people that have already shown you they're willing to use lies to push their own agenda?

Or as Bush so eloquently put it: “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”

Originally posted by Robtard
Out of those dozen, how many are edited to show an untruth like this one though?

Also, why would you trust people that have already shown you they're willing to use lies to push their own agenda?

Or as Bush so eloquently put it: “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”

Why would you trust Obama on this Iranian deal when he already lied to us about Obama care?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Why would you trust Obama on this Iranian deal when he already lied to us about Obama care?

What did Obama lie about now on the ACA?

I thought you said Obama had nothing much to do with the Iran nuclear deal?

Good dodge 👆 You don't have to answer them if you don't want.

Originally posted by Robtard
What did Obama lie about now on the ACA?

I thought you said Obama had nothing much to do with the Iran nuclear deal?

Good dodge though 👆

"You can keep your doctor, and your plan!"

"Your premiums will not go up!"

All lies that you accepted.

Good lord, this again. IIRC, that was back in 2009 and then after all the washing and chopping the bill went through, he went on to say that some people may have to switch doctors and premiums might go up. This is just the reality of politics.

Why are you comparing that to people intentionally editing video to spread lie?

Originally posted by Robtard
Good lord, this again. IIRC, that was back in 2009 and then after all the washing and chopping the bill went through, he went on to say that some people may have to switch doctors and premiums might go up. This is just the reality of politics.

Why are you comparing that to people intentionally editing video to spread lie?

"You can keep your doctor and your plan"

Reality, you can't and now you have to pay for women breast examines and pregnancies even if your single and not married.

"Your premiums will go up not down"

Reality: Premiums sky rocket and most people that had insurance are now uninsured and the poor that had no health insurance have it, however the people that are paying for it, don't..

Priceless.

You asked me why I believe this, and I asked you why you believed other things that have proven to be lies.

Like I said, this is not the only video that will be released.

Yeah, care to substantiate your claims? Cos I don't know a single person who had insurance and lost it due to the ACA.

Why are you comparing that to people intentionally editing video to spread lie though?

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, care to substantiate your claims?

Why are you comparing that to people intentionally editing video to spread lie though?

What claims? Of Obamacare?

I was unaware of the video being edited. Do you have proof?

Alright, you're playing games. Good one.

Originally posted by Robtard
Alright, you're playing games. Good one.

🙄

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Too bad for you that this is only the first video released there are at least a dozen more coming out.

Also, the Affordable Care Act has been a pretty big win for Americans overall. Premiums did not skyrocket, in fact they rose less than in the year preceding, and millions more of Americans are now insured with actual valuable insurance, not fake mini plans.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's literally what I addressed in the post you quoted.

Also, the Affordable Care Act has been a pretty big win for Americans overall. Premiums did not skyrocket, in fact they rose less than in the year preceding, and millions more of Americans are now insured with actual valuable insurance, not fake mini plans.

Too bad you don't actually live here or have a clue and know people that are now un insured cause the deductibles are too high and had to go uninsured. I know because people I work with and in my community, friends, family, neighbors are going through this. But keep acting like you have a clue based on some bias viewpoint.

https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/out-of-pocket-maximum-limit/

Oh no Sancty..

YouTube video

How are you going to spin this one out.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Oh no Sancty..

YouTube video

How are you going to spin this one out.

Well I think the main points will be:

1) This is heavily edited
2) She is still talking about compensation for the logistics (setting up meetings, finding the correct specimen, storage, delivery and staff).
3) She specifically says they are not in it for the money
4) Even if she did do something illegal (which should be investigated) it does not incriminate planned parenthood, but the for-profit she works for (although she alleges fees are for setting up connections, which is probably not illegal, although I agree it's distasteful)

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Oh no Sancty..

YouTube video

How are you going to spin this one out.

"We don't want to be in a position of being accused of selling tissue and stuff like that," Gatter says in the video. "On the other hand, there are costs associated with the use of our space, and all that kind of stuff."

YouTube video
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/newsroom/press-releases/statement-from-planned-parenthood-on-new-undercover-video

If you say so

Its sad that most of the abortions in this country are black babies. In 2013 more black babies in NYC were aborted in born.

Yet no one cares about that.

is that what we're outraged about this hour? black abortions?

Yes