Mr. Fantastic Vs Captain America

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Hurt as in feel some pain? Fine. Still unbelieveably durable? Yeah.

Getting bruised, bleeding, choking, having trouble with streets...

Brown area indeed.

Originally posted by zopzop
Look at that lineup you listed : Namor (CL100), Ben (Cl100), Hulk (Cl100), then you have Wolverine (peak human), Daredevil (peak human), Spiderman (Cl20). You don't see the PIS? You don't see the difference between eating a punch from a CL100 being vs a low level meta?

If you consider Thing cl100, then you should be fair and mention that Wolverine is a low meta. Because he is, a genuine one. Always been described that way, sans the single Spiderman backup material.

Wolverine is NOT street. ❌

How the phukk can a rubber dude even get bruised?

Smh...

Same way exposure to radiation gives you powers not cancer.

Originally posted by riv6672
Same way exposure to radiation gives you powers not cancer.

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without prep. time its a tough fight for Reed..but at last Reed will kick Cap's ass.

Dont agree, but, thats just me.
Reed doesnt have a bad power set, i dont think he uses it as effectively in combat as he could, though.

Originally posted by riv6672
Dont agree, but, thats just me.
Reed doesnt have a bad power set, i dont think he uses it as effectively in combat as he could, though.

It's similar with Pym and Beast.

Well, we know both Reed and Hank are both masters of the Pimp Slap...😇

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Reed can grab CA from a distance and throw him away. Or smash him a few times against a concrete wall. Or whatever.

People seem to forget Reed has actual super strength.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
...People seem to forget Reed has actual super strength.

Could of sworn Reed has taken hits from people like Thing, though I don't doubt he's been KO'ed by less as well.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You're thinking of the superior DC original, who is more powerful.

Reed gets hurt by bullets:

You can clearly see some sort of yellow light beam coming out from that gun,that was no normal bullet.

OT: spiderman didn't KO reed with that kick,he just kicked him...reed was fine,and was able to then throw himself into that blast meant for sue that KO'd him

Cap just has punches and shield throw...reed's body makes that kinda useless.

Reed should win this

So, basically, perusing this thread, Reed has high/low/inconsistent showings like pretty much every other superhero.

As such, I'd say if Cap catches Reed by surprise, fight ends fast, even with a single, red-gloved punch. But, if Reed is on his guard and prepared for blunt-force impact, I don't see how Cap could hurt him. Reed wins, if not as quickly ... unless, perhaps, they are in an environment Cap can use to his tactical advantage.

Case in point, for both combatants: in his fight with Daredevil (FF#73), Reed was able to lasso him before he could react to what he was sensing (Reed's approaching arm). DD got in some good strikes; Reed even thought-bubbled, "If not for my pliable body -- that would have floored me." Reed then tells DD that he's "thru" handling him with "kid gloves." DD again gets in some good shots (mostly by using stuff laying around Reed's lab, eg, a "power rod" -- I imagine Cap would fight similarly), but eventually, Reed tricks him (feigns a lasso, lands with a punch -- rather tactical himself), and in the end, Reed is in the winning position (DD is all wrapped up with a punch headed for his face) when Sue stops him.

Personally Id side with Reed to win here. Yes hes had some low-ish showings for his durability, but hes also had some Very High showings, and has managed to tangle (literally) with characters Much stronger than Cap.

Originally posted by Mindship
So, basically, perusing this thread, Reed has high/low/inconsistent showings like pretty much every other superhero.

I see it as Reed has fairly consistent low showings, against low metas on down.