Count Dooku vs Mother Talzin

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Count Dooku vs Mother Talzin

Who wins?

What?

... Talzin.

Hm, Dooku if it's not on Dathomir.

Vos would take Talzin regardless of the location.

Talzin will kill him either way, eet ees only a mattur of how PAINFUL eet will be...

Dooku imo.

Talzin.

Why do people think she can beat him in open combat ?

Talzin with Dathomir amp was an equal for Sidious, Talzin even without Dathomir should be too strong for Dooku.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Talzin with Dathomir amp was an equal for Sidious, Talzin even without Dathomir should be too strong for Dooku.

I wonder why people don't apply the same logic to Bane era.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Talzin with Dathomir amp was an equal for Sidious, Talzin even without Dathomir should be too strong for Dooku.
Based on ? Right now you're just saying things.

Originally posted by Sinious
I wonder why people don't apply the same logic to Bane era.

Because it's bad logic.

I see no reason to assume that Dathomir is more helpful to Talzin than it is to Sidious, it's a dark side nexus.

There's the whole aspect of her powers where she requires an abundance of life to use them to their full power.

"She holds great power on Dathomir."
"If I was on Dathomir I would be able to heal myself."

Originally posted by ILS
There's the whole aspect of her powers where she requires an abundance of life to use them to their full power.

"She holds great power on Dathomir."
"If I was on Dathomir I would be able to heal myself."

Doesn't that apply to all force users? Regardless, if she holds no power off of Dathomir, then I don't even see the point of discussing her without it.

Well, the Force runs through even the air as far as I know, being a virtually limitless energy field.. the only exception I know of is machinery and the like. Talzin seems to draw power from plantlife strong with Force energy, which Dathomir has in abundance.

Makes her hard to gauge anywhere else. When she was in a "sterile" environment, a ship, she was unable to maintain the illusion of a few dozen nightsisters (that I recall) and couldn't heal herself of a blaster wound, much less kill the group of mercenaries she was fighting, whereas Sidious killed them easily and even threatened to kill Talzin on the spot.. whereas on Dathomir she can give Sidious a fair run for his money.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ? Right now you're just saying things.

Based on the fact that Dooku isn't even in the same magnitude of power as Darth Sidious, an amp anything short of oneness wouldn't have such an effect as to climb in magnitude to that degree.

Thus Dathomir!Talzin = Sidious > Talzin > Dooku.

Originally posted by Sinious
I wonder why people don't apply the same logic to Bane era.

Two words: personal bias.

Originally posted by ILS Well, the Force runs through even the air as far as I know, being a virtually limitless energy field.. the only exception I know of is machinery and the like. Talzin seems to draw power from plantlife strong with Force energy, which Dathomir has in abundance.

Again, this pretty much goes for everyone.

Makes her hard to gauge anywhere else. When she was in a "sterile" environment, a ship, she was unable to maintain the illusion of a few dozen nightsisters (that I recall) and couldn't heal herself of a blaster wound, much less kill the group of mercenaries she was fighting, whereas Sidious killed them easily and even threatened to kill Talzin on the spot.. whereas on Dathomir she can give Sidious a fair run for his money.

Hm. If that's the case, why would the Nightsisters ever want to leave Dathomir? 😖

Not all Nightsisters are necessarily as accustomed to Dathomir as Talzin, or Talzin's just more reliant on such things because of her powers/practices. Perhaps the Nightsisters wanted to find ways to use their powers outside of Dathomir?

You have people like Ventress etc. who are capable of/trained in manipulating the Force like conventional Jedi, too. Talzin's obsession with the green Spirit Ichor and what else is probably related to Dathomir, as opposed to the likes of Ventress who can't do that stuff but aren't reliant on it either, so they can actually use the Force outside of Dathomir.

~Newg
Were that the case Force Users would lose power upon entering a capital ship and riding off into space.

No idea, though Spirit Ichor definitely seems to be more Talzin's thing than your standard Nightsister.