Originally posted by Selenial
Star Wars Insider (06/05/14):
MEH She went toe to toe with him On Dathomir in Barlow's comic.
Off Dathomir in TCW S6 she was pretty even with Windu. I guess many would argue Windu can go toe to toe with Sidious as well, so Whatever.
Also didn't Dooku go "toe to toe" with Yoda in AOTC?
Also Barlow thinks Maul would take Dooku in a fight, so he clearly doesn't have the highest opinion of Dooku.
So my point still stands that if you think Talzin (Off Dathomir) would stomp Dooku, then you would have to think Windu would stomp Dooku, which would seem odd for Lord Stark.
How is swinging wildly at Windu and then bladelocking him being "even" with him?
So.. nah, one can believe Talzin can stomp Dooku without also believing Windu would as well. Windu's clearly the better swordsman and Talzin is clearly the better Force user.
Having said that I'm not seeing non-Dathomir Talzin stomping Dooku.
That it was inconclusive doesn't mean there was any impressive swordsmanship on Talzin's part. Aside from just swinging wildly at Windu and blade locking him, all she has is being completely stomped by Sidious in Dooku's body, with Sidious pointing out that she lacks his skill with a lightsaber.
You're really selling Windu short if you think that's enough to put anyone on his level.
And it also has nothing to do with who is stronger in the Force, which is what Stark was suggesting Talzin would use to stomp Dooku.
Originally posted by ILS
That it was inconclusive doesn't mean there was any impressive swordsmanship on Talzin's part.
In terms of skill? No. But her advantages in a "duel" would be her raw power.
Originally posted by ILS
Aside from just swinging wildly at Windu and blade locking him, all she has is being completely stomped by Sidious in Dooku's body, with Sidious pointing out that she lacks his skill with a lightsaber.
She didn't have her full Power in Dooku's body. But yeah that scene made it clear that she's not the most "skilled" fencer.
Originally posted by ILS
You're really selling Windu short if you think that's enough to put anyone on his level.
Not selling Windu short. I think him and Talzin are the next most Powerful PT Era combatants after Sidious and Yoda.
Originally posted by ILS
And it also has nothing to do with who is stronger in the Force, which is what Stark was suggesting Talzin would use to stomp Dooku.
Talzin doesn't use Tk or anything. She has her magical blasts which Windu dodged. Don't see why Dooku couldn't evade them just the same.
In terms of skill? No. But her advantages in a "duel" would be her raw power.
"Raw power" let Savage Opress push Anakin Skywalker back. Doesn't make them equals by necessity.
Not selling Windu short. I think him and Talzin are the next most Powerful PT Era combatants after Sidious and Yoda.
What I'm saying is, being classed as his equal with a lightsaber is reserved for the likes of Dooku, Anakin, Sidious, Yoda and a select few from other eras. Talzin hasn't been the first to have an inconclusive fight with Windu (looking at Maul, Grievous and Ventress).
Talzin doesn't use Tk or anything. She has her magical blasts which Windu dodged. Don't see why Dooku couldn't evade them just the same.
She's used telekinesis in The Wrath of Darth Maul, SoD #4 and in some other scenes in TCW when she's lifting her conjurations, Maul's body and so on. She's also displayed Force levitation/flight.