Originally posted by ILS
Well, the Force runs through even the air as far as I know, being a virtually limitless energy field.. the only exception I know of is machinery and the like. Talzin seems to draw power from plantlife strong with Force energy, which Dathomir has in abundance.Makes her hard to gauge anywhere else. When she was in a "sterile" environment, a ship, she was unable to maintain the illusion of a few dozen nightsisters (that I recall) and couldn't heal herself of a blaster wound, much less kill the group of mercenaries she was fighting, whereas Sidious killed them easily and even threatened to kill Talzin on the spot.. whereas on Dathomir she can give Sidious a fair run for his money.
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Originally posted by NewGuy01
But the power within them comes from the power around them.
Not always. Does no one remember that quote from Season 6? Talzin doesn't use the force as the Jedi and the Sith do, she was born with no natural force talent. She tells Windu as much. She was using a ritual to gather force energies for herself, after which she believed she's have unchallenged power beyond that anyone else had ever seen.
I don't believe she needs Dathomir to wield her full extent, just life. Dathomir doesn't even have an abundance of life, she managed just fine on Zardossa Stix. I think she'd be just as powerful on Coruscant, Yavin, Felucia, Correllia or anywhere else. The space station (not Ship, ILS 😛) was a different case because there weren't even people to draw off, there were like 6 mercenaries. Even then she was capable of summoning a "dazzling" force illusion.
Originally posted by NewGuy01I wouldn't say so. It comes from their midichlorians, and those organisms' connection to the Force.
But the power within them comes from the power around them.
In fact you could say that Talzin is drawing on the midichlorians of life around her, rather than her own.
Originally posted by SelenialWhere is this stated?
...she was born with no natural force talent.
Originally posted by AncientPowerIs there some comic I haven't read which backs these claims ? In the Star Wars clone wars series I see nothing to suggest she's a Sheev equal in combat.
Based on the fact that Dooku isn't even in the same magnitude of power as Darth Sidious, an amp anything short of oneness wouldn't have such an effect as to climb in magnitude to that degree.Thus Dathomir!Talzin = Sidious > Talzin > Dooku.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Is there some comic I haven't read which backs these claims ? In the Star Wars clone wars series I see nothing to suggest she's a Sheev equal in combat.
The fact that she faced Sheev one on one during the Son of Dathomir comic while weakened. Then held off the combined lightning of Dooku and Sheev for a short period of time.
She's also literally stated to be "a powerhouse that can go toe-to-toe with Darth Sidious" in the Star Wars Insider.
Originally posted by SelenialSo this comic is recognized in the new canon ?
The fact that she faced Sheev one on one during the Son of Dathomir comic while weakened. Then held off the combined lightning of Dooku and Sheev for a short period of time.She's also literally stated to be "a powerhouse that can go toe-to-toe with Darth Sidious" in the Star Wars Insider.
Is it any good ?
Originally posted by quanchi112
So this comic is recognized in the new canon ?Is it any good ?
Yeh it's recognised in the new canon. Good art, but it's kinda short IMO. Good story because it's adapted from unused clone wars storylines.
It's actually posted on a website if you want to read it without buying it. The fight in question takes place in part 4. http://viewcomic.com/star-wars-darth-maul-son-of-dathomir-001-2014/
Originally posted by SelenialJust perished through it. She was very powerful and I hate that she had to die as she'd be pretty awesome to use in future Star Wars films. Love that Maul is still out there though and he's pretty damn formidable. Sheev also feared Talzin.
Yeh it's recognised in the new canon. Good art, but it's kinda short IMO. Good story because it's adapted from unused clone wars storylines.It's actually posted on a website if you want to read it without buying it. The fight in question takes place in part 4. http://viewcomic.com/star-wars-darth-maul-son-of-dathomir-001-2014/
Well in terms of sabers I see the two stale mating or a Dooku victory due to her being able to stalemate windu. However I believe windu vs Dooku, Dooku would win however it would be close. So with that it could be possible that Dooku could take her in sabers.
Dookus Force powers vs Talzins Dark Magic? Dooku is defintly familiar with her magics to an extent and she is defiantly aware of his force powers to an even larger extent. Her rituals are not going to help her, however Dooku can't just overpower her either. I believe the fight on Dathomir between her and Sidious helped her more than anyone else. She is the mother of the nightsisters so it would be natural that it would help her more than anyone else. Being on neutral ground her powers would still be formidable and we have seen what Dooku is capable of when he isn't on a nexus. It's very hard to call.
All out this would be a very close match and I find it hard to pick a winner. Dooku on the other hand has a slight advantage in terms of sabers however this is more than matched by Talzins ability to 1) stalemate mace windu and 2) her dark magic. At the end of the day I'd say it's a stalemate as I can't see either conclusively taking the majority over the other.