Originally posted by cdtm
That's because Dragon Ball is inconsistent as shit and there's no good way to calc. Don't blame them for the shows flaws.
Lmao, they couldn't even multiply a number by two. They're ****ing idiots, which anyone with sense would know after 30 seconds of any of their analysis video's.
Even assuming that their initial calc was correct, that puts SSJ4 Goku at 257,372,228,000 km/hour, which happens to be over 23,000 times faster than the speed of light. Also vastly above what they calced Superman's max speed at, of
Not to mention that since then, Goku and Beerus have feats that make that seem like nothing in comparison.
You have done nothing to debunk universe level dc and durability, or argue that Superman could even stand up to that. Which he can't, and which you can't do, because you're a troll. 👇
It's okay to accept that goku can take temperatures above a normal human being. He may sweat, but you should assume that since holy is SUPERHUMAN, and not someone like myself, so activity to burn sweat will take an extremely long time to get sweating. Which is what they're trying to explain secretly in super and doze oh and saitama! So the scenes with them sweating shouldn't be taken seriously, and they made sure to not show frequently in the show. So you've seen it in dbz, but not in super, so they prefer to stay consistent. If you put your hand over a fire, you burn without sweating (damaged). If you go out and jog with goku, you'll have to give up and stop until you cool off, because you'll be sweating a loong time. So superhumans are accepted!
Originally posted by dvampire
It's okay to accept that goku can take temperatures above a normal human being. He may sweat, but you should assume that since holy is SUPERHUMAN, and not someone like myself, so activity to burn sweat will take an extremely long time to get sweating. Which is what they're trying to explain secretly in super and doze oh and saitama! So the scenes with them sweating shouldn't be taken seriously, and they made sure to not show frequently in the show. So you've seen it in dbz, but not in super, so they prefer to stay consistent. If you put your hand over a fire, you burn without sweating (damaged). If you go out and jog with goku, you'll have to give up and stop until you cool off, because you'll be sweating a loong time. So superhumans are accepted!
At his best, Superman has tanked multiversal powers. Such as Death of the New Gods, when the Source Wall went down and the Source Entity protected Mr. Miracle and Metron, but left Superman exposed to the full energies of the wall unshielded.
A Golu Kamehameha wouldn't even tickle him.
And there's no proof whatsoever Goku can withstand a physical attack from a being as strong as Superman.
Originally posted by cdtm
At his best, Superman has tanked multiversal powers. Such as Death of the New Gods, when the Source Wall went down and the Source Entity protected Mr. Miracle and Metron, but left Superman exposed to the full energies of the wall unshielded.A Golu Kamehameha wouldn't even tickle him.
And there's no proof whatsoever Goku can withstand a physical attack from a being as strong as Superman.
I showed to you Superman being one-shot by Sakki...
A fraction of Goku's energy is enough to vaporize Superman.
Originally posted by cdtm
At his best, Superman has tanked multiversal powers. Such as Death of the New Gods, when the Source Wall went down and the Source Entity protected Mr. Miracle and Metron, but left Superman exposed to the full energies of the wall unshielded.A Golu Kamehameha wouldn't even tickle him.
And there's no proof whatsoever Goku can withstand a physical attack from a being as strong as Superman.
LOl beerus doesn't hit hard?
Originally posted by cdtm
At his best, Superman has tanked multiversal powers. Such as Death of the New Gods, when the Source Wall went down and the Source Entity protected Mr. Miracle and Metron, but left Superman exposed to the full energies of the wall unshielded.A Golu Kamehameha wouldn't even tickle him.
And there's no proof whatsoever Goku can withstand a physical attack from a being as strong as Superman.
That never happened. Superman was knocked out by the collapse of one of the nigh-infinite source walls, which was considered planetary in terms of raw energy. That is in no way, the "full energies of the wall." It's also consistent with another scan in that same issue, where Superman was knocked out by the collision of New Genesis and Apokolips. Both of these feats put Superman at just above planetary durability.
Goku can universe bust with a punch.
So you're right, a kamehameha wouldn't tickle Superman. He wouldn't even be able to perceive what he felt, as a single kamehameha wave from SSJG and beyond Goku completely vaporized his entire being.
Originally posted by cdtm
At his best, Superman has tanked multiversal powers. Such as Death of the New Gods, when the Source Wall went down and the Source Entity protected Mr. Miracle and Metron, but left Superman exposed to the full energies of the wall unshielded.A Golu Kamehameha wouldn't even tickle him.
And there's no proof whatsoever Goku can withstand a physical attack from a being as strong as Superman.
Superman was shielded and he was hit by the shockwaves, not the full attack.
Originally posted by cdtm
YouTube videoSuch awesome animation, seen by millions of people around the world. 👆
Some time ago i wrote them an mail, and ask them to make a third fight where Gokus wins. As Superman fans are more mature and understanding. This will give us all some pause from the DB fanboys who will be less butthurt.
TLDR: Phuck logic, let Goku win.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
👆 Great Video, great animation, superb research and insights on both chars. Though the second video was more accurate it only shows that they even improved.Some time ago i wrote them an mail, and ask them to make a third fight where Gokus wins. As Superman fans are more mature and understanding. This will give us all some pause from the DB fanboys who will be less butthurt.
TLDR: Phuck logic, let Goku win.
Nobody is butthurt at Screwattack's bullshit. 😂 😂 😂
The point is that Superman fanboys uses their opinions as a reference which is hilarious considering how much they nitpick and take everything out-of-context and ignore even Superman vulnerability/weakness to Ki-attack.
Goku is the only logical winner.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
👆 Great Video, great animation, superb research and insights on both chars. Though the second video was more accurate it only shows that they even improved.Some time ago i wrote them an mail, and ask them to make a third fight where Gokus wins. As Superman fans are more mature and understanding. This will give us all some pause from the DB fanboys who will be less butthurt.
TLDR: Phuck logic, let Goku win.
"Lmao, they couldn't even multiply a number by two. They're ****ing idiots, which anyone with sense would know after 30 seconds of any of their analysis video's.
Even assuming that their initial calc was correct, that puts SSJ4 Goku at 257,372,228,000 km/hour, which happens to be over 23,000 times faster than the speed of light. Also vastly above what they calced Superman's max speed at, of
Not to mention that since then, Goku and Beerus have feats that make that seem like nothing in comparison.
You have done nothing to debunk universe level dc and durability, or argue that Superman could even stand up to that. Which he can't, and which you can't do, because you're a troll. thumb down"
Can you not be an idiot, for five seconds? Legitimately wondering.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
"Lmao, they couldn't even multiply a number by two. They're ****ing idiots, which anyone with sense would know after 30 seconds of any of their analysis video's.Even assuming that their initial calc was correct, that puts SSJ4 Goku at 257,372,228,000 km/hour, which happens to be over 23,000 times faster than the speed of light. Also vastly above what they calced Superman's max speed at, of
Not to mention that since then, Goku and Beerus have feats that make that seem like nothing in comparison.
You have done nothing to debunk universe level dc and durability, or argue that Superman could even stand up to that. Which he can't, and which you can't do, because you're a troll. thumb down"
Can you not be an idiot, for five seconds? Legitimately wondering.
Only Hardcore DB fans are phucking idiots 😉.
The Numbers are correct, it was a copy and paste error, if you would care you would see it, the final number is correct though only if you deem the multipliers to be legit, which they aren't as proven by the Anime and Manga.
Superman tanked far more than any DB char can dish out at the moment, the only saving grace for DB is the fact that Superman has thousands of more appearances by different writers, which allows you to lowball shit.
Come back when Goku tank a bullet without being hurt.
Oh, and my new policy is to put retards on ignore, so welcome 😉.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Only Hardcore DB fans are phucking idiots 😉.The Numbers are correct, it was a copy and paste error, if you would care you would see it, the final number is correct though only if you deem the multipliers to be legit, which they aren't as proven by the Anime and Manga.
Superman tanked far more than any DB char can dish out at the moment, the only saving grace for DB is the fact that Superman has thousands of more appearances by different writers, which allows you to lowball shit.
Come back when Goku tank a bullet without being hurt.
Oh, and my new policy is to put retards on ignore, so welcome 😉.
1. You're the idiot in this equation, and I'm about to prove it mathematically.
2. First off, I just exposed the fallacies within their numbers. They posted Goku's speed to be 64,343,057 km/hour. Then then post 32171528.5 km/hour as his SSJ1 max speed, hoping idiots like you wouldn't realize that they just said Goku is half as fast in SSJ1 as he is in base form. Even going with THEIR multipliers, which even THEY can't use accurately, the scale goes like this:
Base: 64,343,057 km/hour
SSJ1: 3,217,152,850 km/hour
SSJ2: 6,434,305,700 km/hour
SSJ3: 25,737,222,800 km/hour
SSJ4: 257,372,228,000 km/hour
The max speed they posted for Superman was 9,400,000,000 km/hour. Hm, 9.4 billion km/hour compared to 257 billion km/hour? I wonder who's faster... Going by their calcs, even SSJ3 Goku shits on Superman in terms of speed alone. SSJ3 and even SSJ4 are literally ANTS compared to SSJG, SSJB, UI, and all around current Goku.
3. In their own strength calc, they point out that they're using Goku's max without ki. Which is completely irrelevant, considering he can amp himself billions of times up with ki.
SSJG Goku is capable of destroying universes with his punches. This is a strike force in the ballpark of 1.e+41, or 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 megatons of force. 100 duo-decillion megatons of strike force, compared to 10 octillion megatons worth of durability. Hm, I'm not sure why, but it seems to me like a strike force over a trillion times stronger than the durability of the person you're striking might do a little more than tickle someone. In fact, it would quite literally slam the entire force of the big bang on top of Superman's face. The force of the big bang that even Imperiex Prime, who laughed at Superman's weakness, couldn't even have a prayer of surviving a fraction of.
A single punch from SSJG Goku would quite literally kill Superman and destroy his entire unvierse.
Keep in mind SSJG Goku is a weakling compared to SSJB Goku, who is conversely a weakling to UI Goku.
UI Goku >>> SSJB Goku >>> SSJG Goku ~ Universe busting punches/durability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Galaxy busting >>>>>>> Solar System busting/durability ~ Superman at his best.
Gonna go ahead and give strength and durability to Goku.
4. See #3.
5.
Goku literally tanked a headshot from a high-caliber futuristic revolver, as a seven year old child with no training. He has since then done far more impressive, like grabbing machinegun rounds out of the air with his bare hands. Not sure why this is relevant though, given this is nothing to Superman or Goku.
Your attempt at cherrypicking has failed. 👇
6. Well that's fine, because you and I both know that whether you respond or not, you're still going to be factually incorrect, and embarrassing yourself with your own bias, ignorance, and lack of knowledge on this topic that you somehow have the gall to argue about in the first place, despite having next to zero knowledge on said topic.
Go ahead and ignore this argument, as I'm sure you will, in a futile attempt to save face by avoiding a debate altogether. I accept your concession in advance. 👆
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
👆 Great Video, great animation, superb research and insights on both chars. Though the second video was more accurate it only shows that they even improved.Some time ago i wrote them an mail, and ask them to make a third fight where Gokus wins. As Superman fans are more mature and understanding. This will give us all some pause from the DB fanboys who will be less butthurt.
TLDR: Phuck logic, let Goku win.
This wasn't even a thing till wizard had goku correctly beating superman and the Clark fanboys went nuts on the net for YEARS