Goku has serious limits first off......
His boosts come from overcoming THOSE said limits or from near death (a cheap way to get boosted if you ask me.) and he has the transformations he can TRY to master.
Superman by some writers DOESNT have limits because some are written for him so he can have some similarities to fans.
Originally posted by Astner
From the DC Comics Ultimate Character Guide.
to bad he lifted infinity which in it self has no limit try again
Originally posted by BeyonderGod
also never stated anything about building lol i can admit a feat when I SEE it not when someone tells me something that is a lieaka powerscaling
aka calculations
aka the exact two excuses you people use to try and discredit Broly blowing the galaxy even though you see it with your own eyes. But of course you people shift goal posts depending on what favors your arguments.
Originally posted by bbrem123
Superman fans go a little overboard when it comes to his power and limitations. Abstract is the lowest they think he loses to...
just go back and look at all the things superman has done pre and post crisis his writers are always giving him ridicoulous feats and its going to continue as long as long as he exists the point of superman is that hes a god trying to live amongst men.
dont get mad because you dont like it its something you jus have to accept hes a super hero with the ultimate cheat code. its actually why i dont like him
Originally posted by carver9
And needed help from other Superman to lift a mile long ship pages before lifting the book with infinite pages.
exactly your proving my point hes as strong as the writers want him to be.
he needed help lifting infinity but guess what half of infinity is...... infinity
another example is the justice league tv show the first season he was getting beat up by alot of enemies. the second season and third season he was unstoppable. without any signs of training. he is as strong as he needs to be for the story
Originally posted by yungz22
exactly your proving my point hes as strong as the writers want him to be.he needed help lifting infinity but guess what half of infinity is...... infinity
I feel that magical book doesn't weigh what people think it weighs. Superman is stronger than Ultraman but Ultraman lifted the same book with ease.
Question to the people that are knowledgeable about the book with infinite pages, has anyone failed to lift it?
Originally posted by carver9
I feel that magical book doesn't weigh what people think it weighs. Superman is stronger than Ultraman but Ultraman lifted the same book with ease.Question to the people that are knowledgeable about the book with infinite pages, has anyone failed to lift it?
well considering ultraman is supes from another universe it makes sense that he could lift it.
Originally posted by yungz22
what does wolverine have to do with anything.
Example of a comic book character feat that shouldn't be used in message boards battles.
The no limits fallacy is used only by morons on KMC. There are rules against it and it's just common sense to avoid focusing on such "feats", tbh.
Originally posted by carver9
Stilt brought that up because we go by AVERAGE showings.
Yeah.
In message boards battles, both high-end and low-end showings will be posted. It's inevitable. The job of battlezone judges, for example, is to find out what can be considered an average showing for a character.
Like Captain America no-selling bullets - as in they didn't even leave their marks on his skin - is that a regular showing? Of course not.
The Hulk getting KO'd by a truck. Acceptable or not? Of course not, since he trashes casual tank-lifters like Iron Man on a regular basis.
Spider-Man lifting more weight than Hulk or Thor could in the Daily Bugle building instance - okay or not? Surely not.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah.In message boards battles, both high-end and low-end showings will be posted. It's inevitable. The job of battlezone judges, for example, is to find out what can be considered an average showing for a character.
Like Captain America no-selling bullets - as in they didn't even leave their marks on his skin - is that a regular showing? Of course not.
The Hulk getting KO'd by a truck. Acceptable or not? Of course not, since he trashes casual tank-lifters like Iron Man on a regular basis.
Spider-Man lifting more weight than Hulk or Thor could in the Daily Bugle building instance - okay or not? Surely not.
Yungz doesn't know this though. He think we primarily go off high showings. If a character have one high showing with nothing but low showings following that one high, he would use the high showing as an average. Someone like Martian Manhunter or Gladiator would be Skyfathers in his eyes.
Originally posted by carver9
Yungz doesn't know this though. He think we primarily go off high showings. If a character have one high showing with nothing but low showings following that one high, he would use the high showing as an average. Someone like Martian Manhunter or Gladiator would be Skyfathers in his eyes.
i know what average means it means take all of feats that yiu dont like out of consideration
little do you realize is that your nerfing goku as well because with that same rule he isnt universal
why not just have both characters fight at their strongest and accept the feats instead of trying to nerf one because you dont like what he/she did