Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Superman sundipped to overcome the defense, tendrils and the engines powered by the energies of an abstract, a multi universal force of entropy. A skyfather level being failed against just the tendrils while Superman did all of it rather easily.Goku as seen in Episode 14 has limits, is herald level at best, one unquantifable shared feat in a very small Universe won't change it.
At the end of the day, I agree with Prof here: what he says regarding Superman is right, and even if it is true that he quite underestimates Goku's level of power, in the grand scheme of things this latter fact doesn't mean much.
Originally posted by yungz22
superman prme 1 million is the strongest superman
Yes (maybe) and no at the same time.
Originally posted by Sj_Sharp
At the end of the day, I agree with Prof here: what he says regarding Superman is right, and even if it is true that he quite underestimates Goku's level of power, in the grand scheme of things this latter fact doesn't mean much.Yes (maybe) and no at the same time.
Everything he said isn't right. Not even close.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Let's see how Superman handles Goku's ultimate form:SSJGSSJ4GSSJ2.5LG-mode 😂
😆
Already better animations and story than DB Chou.
From the same channel.
1. Goku and Vegeta vs. Marvel Universe
2. Goku and Vegeta vs. DC Universe (yes, including Superman)
Laughed a lot at those 😂 Great stuff.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
From the same channel.1. Goku and Vegeta vs. Marvel Universe
2. Goku and Vegeta vs. DC Universe (yes, including Superman)
Laughed a lot at those 😂 Great stuff.
I know them ^^. Really funny.
Goffu vs. Super Thor was enjoyable, too.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Let's see how Superman handles Goku's ultimate form:SSJGSSJ4GSSJ2.5LG-mode 😂
Awesome, way better than DBS.
The SSJGSSJ4GSSJ2.5LG is really amazing, I'd like to see it become canon. 😱 😆
Also, even the rest of the videos is fantastic.
Originally posted by carver9
Everything he said isn't right. Not even close.
I personally love both Goku and Superman, so I will never understand this whole "religion war" between fans.
Also, to me:
- Goku and Superman can't be compared: Goku is a "hyperhuman" martial artist, the only reson for his life is to fight; Clark, on the contrary, is a Superhero and, even if he also knows how to fight well, he has totally different duties compared to the former. Duties of which Goku couldn't care less.
- The DBZ characters are awfully underestimated by other fan bases, often because of the lack of collateral damage when they fight. However, it has been explained many times that they can control the outer damage when they clash, since they are master in this regard.
They also fight awfully faster than they fly, and since DB is a very basic and linear series in power, it is utterly easily for non-retarded people to understand how powerful and fast they are, since bottom-fodder character like Roshi can casually pick 10 machine gun bullets right of the bat, or shit-tiers like 1st form Freeza can easily destroy planets way bigger than the Earth.
- SSG Goku is super-duper powerful and, because of the previous reasons, it would take a lot less than the God form in order to teach regular Superman a lesson or two, based on many showings of the latter.
- However, Superman is, as Grant Morrison described him, a Sci-Fi Jesus and basically the core of the DCU, a fictional verse which is so much more deep and complex than the DB one that it isn't even funny to compare them.
In this kind of fictional verse, when needed by the story, Superman easily trascends the level of a "mere" super powerful character who can only punch and kick hard: that's why, as Galan rightfully said, a high-end Superman is still capable to overcome what Goku has currently to offer.
- I also doubt that this situation will ever change, despite the fact that DBS is still on going and Goku will almost surely become even more powerful, but that isn't Goku's fault at all; you should instead "blame" AT who clearly seems not capable to conceive a story which works on a quality level that would let Goku perform feats comparable to those shown by the high-end versions of Superman.
- Side note: "high-end version of Superman" =/= Thought Robot Superman. The latter was literally something else, so better leave it out of the whole argument. 😉
Being said that, what I really would have liked would have been to see the concept of Goku to be managed by DC: him and Clark are completely different, however I really think that they would have gone along well under the same "roof", and surely Goku would have also been a top-notch character in said verse.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Goffu vs. Super Thor was enjoyable, too.
Already posted this, in this very same thread. sneer
Originally posted by Sj_Sharp
In this kind of fictional verse, when needed by the story, Superman easily trascends the level of a "mere" super powerful character who can only punch and kick hard: that's why, as Galan rightfully said, a high-end Superman is still capable to overcome what Goku has currently to offer.
what i was trying to say
Originally posted by yungz22I like how you use one showing to justify his power. While ignoring soooooooo many other feats that keep him in the HH range. He is a top HH nothing more. Yes the has great feats but so does thor, surfer, and every other hight end hero.
exactly your proving my point hes as strong as the writers want him to be.he needed help lifting infinity but guess what half of infinity is...... infinity
Originally posted by bbrem123
I like how you use one showing to justify his power. While ignoring soooooooo many other feats that keep him in the HH range. He is a top HH nothing more. Yes the has great feats but so does thor, surfer, and every other hight end hero.
because im not trying to nerf him like you guys are
both characters at their strongest is what even goku would want.....but because you dont want him to lose yall try to depower supes its actually kinda sad