Goku vs Superman Death Battle-Discuss

Started by carver9183 pages

Originally posted by psycho gundam
TBH Dbz power displays post-Frieza saga don't really equal up to their power level, like now that you have blue god whatever Goku/Vegeta you'd be hard pressed to find feats that make the stuff in Frieza saga look weak other than implied power, simply due to the mangaka telling you the character is that strong. Only thing that comes to mind is Buu destroying planets by self detonating but I mean, Freiza made it look easier in base form

Screwattack was using Superman feats from anything in comic form post-coie which was wrong also, but with the former and latter added together means Dbz can't win

so you admit Savage Hulk is more powerful than World Breaker Hulk?

Anyways, clearly Death Battle was biased.

Here's how it should have gone:

Goku is the guy on the right.

Originally posted by carver9
so you admit Savage Hulk is more powerful than World Breaker Hulk?
That's a strawman but I'd still bite just to kick the shit outta you in that debate

You guys aren't down.

He wouldn't dare argue against me

Originally posted by cdtm
Anyways, clearly Death Battle was biased.

Here's how it should have gone:

Goku is the guy on the right.

Agreed.

Goku can one-shot Superman.

I don't see how Superman is a match for Goku.

A) Striking power:

Goku is superior to Superman, not only because he is a martial artist but because:
1) Goku deals more damages to his opponents than Superman while remaining in base form.
2) Goku's opponents are far more powerful than Superman so is Goku.

3) Goku can amp-up easily with many Sayan transformations. Goku in his base form is already too much for Clark so I can't even imagine if he powers-up.

B) Combat speed:

It's easy via comparing the fights from the 23rnd Budokai tournament and understanding that Goku's speed improves in every story arc and with his Sayan transformations and techniques.

Goku is so fast in combat than Superman has literally 0% chances to touch him in combat.

C) Energy projection:

The best that pre-crisis Clark was to rise-up the temperature of the planet by a few degrees.

Goku can one-shot the Earth with a little Ki-ball.

The difference in power is tremendous.

On top of that the Ki-energy is the basic of Magic & the Quantum Field in the DC Universe AND is an opposing force to Superman powers:

That means that the Ki-energy will bypass Superman's invulnerability (ignore it) and counter Superman's pôwers (like a Red Sun) meaning that Goku can beat Superman just by powering-up.

Superman's maximum energy output must be similar than his New-52 version, meaning that he can at best do an all-out attack with a power inferior or equal to King Demon Piccolo.

D) Versatility:

Goku is now to invent new techniques and has a lot up his sleeve.

Superman can uses his powers in different ways but he has nothing that will come out of a threat for Goku.

Conlusion:

Goku is faster, more powerful and a better fighter than Clark. The only possible outcome in a fight between them is Goku giving to Superman the beating of his life without trying.

@Reality...

I agree with everything you said. The only way Superman stands a chance against Goku is by ignoring Superman entire history and focusing primarily on his highs. This is not how we debate at KMC. Everything is considered in battles.

Originally posted by carver9
@Reality...

I agree with everything you said. The only way Superman stands a chance against Goku is by ignoring Superman entire history and focusing primarily on his highs. This is not how we debate at KMC. Everything is considered in battles.

Thanks bro. 🙂

I always take all factors in account when looking at a fictional fight. ^^

LMAO

Superman wins. Goku gets some licks in but Superman is just too powerful physically as well as too durable. Stop it

Originally posted by psycho gundam
LMAO

Superman wins. Goku gets some licks in but Superman is just too powerful physically as well as too durable. Stop it

Based on ?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
LMAO

Superman wins. Goku gets some licks in but Superman is just too powerful physically as well as too durable. Stop it

Goku and Beerus were on the verge of destroying the universe when they fought, and Goku has gotten much more powerful since then.

How familiar are you with Goku's recent feats?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Goku and Beerus were on the verge of destroying the universe when they fought, and Goku has gotten much more powerful since then.

How familiar are you with Goku's recent feats?

And no comic character's ever survived a universe buster. *ahemantimonitoremperorjoker*

Besides there's three things with that feat:

1. It's a shared feat. For all we know, Beerus had more to do with it.

2. It's a one off. Just like if a character isn't a solid "bullet timer" because he has a single bullet dodging feat in a fifty year history (Looking at Bruce Wayne and Steve Rogers).

3. It's a small universe. 😛

That aside, Goku has nowhere near Superman's buffet of strength feats to suggest he has a "universe busting punch", nor the wide variety of durability feats which move up to the universal level at the upper end. (Hell, even inferior clones like Gladiator and Hyperion have a similarly impressive feats, like staying conscious after Tyrant's attack, or surviving the destruction of a universe..)

Don't feat fight the Superman fans guys.

I'm a Goku fan through and through. And haven't liked Superman since before the supermullet.

But someone's gotta show all fans aren't insane weeaboo's. 😉

Originally posted by cdtm
2. It's a one off. Just like if a character isn't a solid "bullet timer" because he has a single bullet dodging feat in a fifty year history (Looking at Bruce Wayne and Steve Rogers).

Batman can totally and has totally dodged bullets way more than once.

3. It's a small universe. 😛

No, it's not. 😬

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Batman can totally and has totally dodged bullets way more than once.

I"m talking MATRIX style dodging. Moving out of the way before the bullet hits your head, bullet catching, knocking a bullet out of mid air with a batrarang, that kind of thing.

He may have more then one example, but certainly very few relative to his history compared to, say, Daredevil deflecting bullets with his stick.

No, it's not. 😬

1 million km Snake Way and inages showing it wrapping around the universe say differently. 😛

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm a Goku fan through and through. And haven't liked Superman since before the supermullet.

But someone's gotta show all fans aren't insane weeaboo's. 😉

Goku fan. 😂 😂

Small universe

Herp

https://cloudedanime.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/dragon-ball-super-041-23-super-dragon.jpg?w=632&h=356&crop=1

Derp

Small universe.