Quinlan Vos (Dark Disciple) vs. TCW Darth Maul

Started by Darth Thor3 pages
Originally posted by ILS
You'll notice that your ABC logic is poorly applied here.

Huh? I hardly used ABC logic. ABC would be something like "Windu beat Sidous who stomped Maul, therefore Windu would Uber Trash Maul.."

Was just suggesting that IF we use the only foe they have both fought as a measuring stick, then Dooku LOOKS far superior.

The other opponent they have in common is Grievous, which again makes Dooku look superior (granted Dooku trained Grievous, and I've already stated previously that I don't see Grievous as the best measuring stick amongst Jedi/Sith due to his Non-Force nature.

Also suggested you might have a A>B>C>A type logic with the different Saber forms, which you do, and that's fine.

Originally posted by ILS

Setting aside style advantages; Maul and Kenobi are both praised as being among the best duelists in all of recorded history with the feats to back it up, as you know. Windu and Dooku are better, but by a slim margin.

I'm cool with that.

Originally posted by ILS
And more to the actual point I was making: no, Dooku's not taking a "large" majority on account of a power Maul can circumvent better than most of Dooku's competition.

I would still call it a large majority. Because Dooku's just a little better in almost every category. For instance the time Maul gets the edge over Dooku in Sabers, Dooku will likely use his superior Force Powers to gain the overall edge again, much like how his fight against Skywalker went in "Crisis on Naboo." Or against Opress when he was disarmed by him.

I'm not suggesting Maul won't give Dooku hell every time. He will. I just think the number of times Maul will actually win will an all out will be small in number.

http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/950?articleID=145871

"His power isn’t on Vader’s level, true, or even on Count Dooku’s level — but that never stops him. He stands alongside the Sith Lords only by sheer force of will."

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Actually, Jeremy Barlow said he thinks Maul would take Dooku 6-7/10 when asked on Twitter.

Basically in the quote you're referring to, Jeremy said that in terms of raw power/ability he's not quite as good as Dooku and Vader, but he stands as their peer through sheer force of will lol.

Official Interview>Twitter. Not to mention Mace Windu (who's faced both Dooku and Maul in combat) states that he believes Dooku is the Sith Master.

Originally posted by Lord Stark

Official Interview>Twitter.

I'm sorry if I don't buy that the medium has any effect on his opinion on the matter.

It's not as if the authors have any official say on the matter anyway. 😐

Originally posted by Beniboybling
It's not as if the authors have any official say on the matter anyway. 😐

It doesn't matter, considering the only thing I'm discussing at this point is the nature of the statement itself, not it's relevance to the battle.

Compare Maul vs Obi-Wan to Dooku vs Obi-Wan. Compare Maul vs Sidious to Dooku vs Yoda. Dooku has the advantage.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
It doesn't matter, considering the only thing I'm discussing at this point is the nature of the statement itself, not it's relevance to the battle.
Well if we are discussing the credibility of these people's opinions, the answer they have none.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Well if we are discussing the credibility of these people's opinions, the answer they have none.

Except we're not.

Then I'm at a loss as to the point of this discussion.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/950?articleID=145871

"His power isn’t on Vader’s level, true, or even on Count Dooku’s level — but that never stops him. He stands alongside the Sith Lords only by sheer force of will." Official Interview>Twitter.

Read the underlined part. He's putting him on par with them despite claiming he's less powerful due to Maul's "sheer force of will". Then later he gives his opinion that Maul would actually take Dooku for a majority, because "he never gives up" (which is perfectly in line with his "sheer force of will" statement). The fact that the second part is on twitter doesn't have a bearing on his opinion.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Not to mention Mace Windu (who's faced both Dooku and Maul in combat) states that he believes Dooku is the Sith Master.

That's a good point tbf. But given most of us are claiming Dooku is above Maul overall, there's no real contradiction there to the general opinion here. The only disagreement is you're claiming Dooku's an entire tier above Maul.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Compare Maul vs Obi-Wan to Dooku vs Obi-Wan. Compare Maul vs Sidious to Dooku vs Yoda. Dooku has the advantage.

Damn I keep forgetting about the Yoda/Dooku fight.

I agree Dooku has the clear advantage.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Compare Maul vs Obi-Wan to Dooku vs Obi-Wan. Compare Maul vs Sidious to Dooku vs Yoda. Dooku has the advantage.

👆

So Newguy, you have Maul>Dooku?

Originally posted by Trocity
So Newguy, you have Maul>Dooku?

No, lol.

Oh KMC.. you silly.