ROTJ Luke runs the PT era Sith gauntlet

This is quite a laughable attempt at a debate. You're just mouthing off calling me a liar and coming out with unsubstantiated claims, like Maul is faster.

Yet you've still not answered what Maul has done to prove he's on Dooku's level. Heck you've not even given any substantiation for why Maul is apparently faster 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have not proven Dooku is on another level. 😂

I kind of have. Fighting equally against both TCW Obi-Wan and Anakin together. Stomping Kenobi 3/3 times. Fighitng off Yoda for 30 seconds without getting disarmed and TK stomped. What's Maul got that compares to that? Nothing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't stomping. Dooku is better than Kenobi but so is Maul. It is abc logic either way since their styles are all so different.

Dooku's >> Kenobi. Maul's yet to prove he's even > Kenobi. Maul's only shown he's slightly better than Kenobi. Which isn't on Dooku's level at all.

I'm using a common frame of reference who both Dooku and Maul have foguht multiple times. That's a very direct and comparable A>B logic compared to your huge circular A>B>C>A logic, comparing opponents who've not even foguht each other.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Anakin uses an aggressive style with powerful strikes similar to Maul.

And Dooku fought off both Anakin and Kenobi combined.

And you've yet to prove Maul is as strong or as powerful as Anakin when he defeated Dooku. Not to mention Dooku just fought off 2 opponents before that happened 😂

You're reasoning is a fail.

The more relevant and direct A>B>C is by comparing opponents they've both fought as follows:

Maul has stomped Opress
Dooku has stomped Opress

Dooku's stomped Ventress
Maul's fought Ventress briefly with no clear result

Dooku's stomped Kenobi 3/3 times
Maul's failed to defeat Kenobi even once.

^ So as you can see, Dooku's style stomps all 3 of those above opponents just the same. Maul only stomps 1 of them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am referring to the phantom menace force push. It's timing, kiddo.

So Dooku's got better timing than Kenobi and Maul. Cool!

I've already shown how he moves faster in the above video, now you've proven he has better timing and skill as well 👆

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said Kenobi is a match for Dooku. No, he is more skilled not faster.

Well looks like together we've both proven he's both- more skilled and faster. How else did he dance around Kenobi and Anakin one time, and Ventress and Opress another time?

Can Maul do that? If he can, he's yet to prove it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't possess common sense so please refrain from lying.

Continue to run from my points.

LOL I'm addressing you point by point. If there's something you think I've missed feel free to repeat it, or quote yourself. Or quoting me point for point would be the easiest way tbh.

It's funny though you're still dodging the main point-

What has Maul done to prove he's on Dooku's level?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul doesn't just possess power he possesses skill as well. I didn't say opress can I said maul who uses both quickness, skill, and power.

Great. So what's he done with that Skill, Quickness and Power that compares to fighting off both Anakin and Obi-Wan equally. Or dancing around both Ventress and Opress?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was out numbered.

Who was? When? You need to quote point by point, because I don't get what you're talking about. Dooku is the one whose proven he's faster than Obi-Wan and Anakin by fighting them both off together.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul managed and was fine.

Managed what?

Fighting equally against Kenobi and Anakin together? Nope.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kenobi is weaker than Maul.

And yet he's failed to defeat him 1 v 1, or even when Obi-Wan was outnumbered.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He defeated him in phantom menace and taunted him. That's what got him almost killed. He had him beaten skill wise.

LOL So now you're bragging about him beating a Padawan.

That's really not even close to Dooku's league.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already listed the other time.

And you're wrong. Kenobi only began losing After he took time out of the fight to help Ventress. Before that he was beating Maul. Even then Maul had to induce Rage in Kenobi (in a way only Maul can because he killed his Master), to keep beating him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Their styles are different that it doesn't matter.

Actually Dooku's style is closest to Kenobi's. The fact that he regularly beats on Kenobi, just shows how much better he is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, maul bested him after he got him angrier. Kenobi was sloppier after antagonized. Maul was winning on his own against Kenobi. Watch the fight.

Addressed above.

Originally posted by quanchi112
While fighting he wasn't laboring or exhausted. Maul never lost skill wise to Kenobi. He's spared his life.

Maul never lost to Kenobi, because they are both pretty equal.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said they are both quicker and stronger than Dooku. Try understanding what my sentence means. Not ANAKIN.

Again you're just making things up, without any kind of proof or even circumstantial evidence as back up. This is getting quite embarrassing for you.

Dooku is quicker than both Kenobi and Anakin, as shown above. Kenobi is equally as fast as Maul, therefore Dooku is faster than Maul. Faster, better timing (as proven by you), more skilled, greater knowledge of the Force. More than enough to beat Maul's apparently greater strength.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Opress was stomped by Maul as well as lacks Maul's skill. You try to distort my argument throughout your post and stick to abc logic which isn't relevant to Dooku or Maul.

Addressed above.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul is more powerful,

LOL Based on what? He can't even take Kenobi!

Originally posted by quanchi112
younger,

Kenobi's younger as well. Doesn't help him. You're grasping for straws.

Originally posted by quanchi112
and uses a more aggressive style one in which Anakin used successfully to kill Dooku.

Anakin's style has failed plenty of times to overpower Dooku. It was Anakin's increasing raw power that defeated him (and Dooku still almost took him out in the same fight despite being outnumbered).

So you've proven nothing. Dooku's style has shown the most variety, and most consistency at stomping opponents. Maul's the one who struggles against Kenobi.

So still waiting for anything Maul has done which puts him on Dooku's level. Keep avoiding and derailing 😂

Originally posted by Bentley
Dooku manhandles Darth Maul.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
The reason it still goes on is because Lucas has not put an official answer on th table.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
This is quite a laughable attempt at a debate. You're just mouthing off calling me a liar and coming out with unsubstantiated claims, like Maul is faster.

Yet you've still not answered what Maul has done to prove he's on Dooku's level. Heck you've not even given any substantiation for why Maul is apparently faster 😂

I kind of have. Fighting equally against both TCW Obi-Wan and Anakin together. Stomping Kenobi 3/3 times. Fighitng off Yoda for 30 seconds without getting disarmed and TK stomped. What's Maul got that compares to that? Nothing.

Dooku's >> Kenobi. Maul's yet to prove he's even > Kenobi. Maul's only shown he's slightly better than Kenobi. Which isn't on Dooku's level at all.

I'm using a common frame of reference who both Dooku and Maul have foguht multiple times. That's a very direct and comparable A>B logic compared to your huge circular A>B>C>A logic, comparing opponents who've not even foguht each other.

And Dooku fought off both Anakin and Kenobi combined.

And you've yet to prove Maul is as strong or as powerful as Anakin when he defeated Dooku. Not to mention Dooku just fought off 2 opponents before that happened 😂

You're reasoning is a fail.

The more relevant and direct A>B>C is by comparing opponents they've both fought as follows:

Maul has stomped Opress
Dooku has stomped Opress

Dooku's stomped Ventress
Maul's fought Ventress briefly with no clear result

Dooku's stomped Kenobi 3/3 times
Maul's failed to defeat Kenobi even once.

^ So as you can see, Dooku's style stomps all 3 of those above opponents just the same. Maul only stomps 1 of them.

So Dooku's got better timing than Kenobi and Maul. Cool!

I've already shown how he moves faster in the above video, now you've proven he has better timing and skill as well 👆

Well looks like together we've both proven he's both- more skilled and faster. How else did he dance around Kenobi and Anakin one time, and Ventress and Opress another time?

Can Maul do that? If he can, he's yet to prove it.

LOL I'm addressing you point by point. If there's something you think I've missed feel free to repeat it, or quote yourself. Or quoting me point for point would be the easiest way tbh.

It's funny though you're still dodging the main point-

What has Maul done to prove he's on Dooku's level?

Great. So what's he done with that Skill, Quickness and Power that compares to fighting off both Anakin and Obi-Wan equally. Or dancing around both Ventress and Opress?

Who was? When? You need to quote point by point, because I don't get what you're talking about. Dooku is the one whose proven he's faster than Obi-Wan and Anakin by fighting them both off together.

Managed what?

Fighting equally against Kenobi and Anakin together? Nope.

And yet he's failed to defeat him 1 v 1, or even when Obi-Wan was outnumbered.

LOL So now you're bragging about him beating a Padawan.

That's really not even close to Dooku's league.

And you're wrong. Kenobi only began losing After he took time out of the fight to help Ventress. Before that he was beating Maul. Even then Maul had to induce Rage in Kenobi (in a way only Maul can because he killed his Master), to keep beating him.

Actually Dooku's style is closest to Kenobi's. The fact that he regularly beats on Kenobi, just shows how much better he is.

Addressed above.

Maul never lost to Kenobi, because they are both pretty equal.

Again you're just making things up, without any kind of proof or even circumstantial evidence as back up. This is getting quite embarrassing for you.

Dooku is quicker than both Kenobi and Anakin, as shown above. Kenobi is equally as fast as Maul, therefore Dooku is faster than Maul. Faster, better timing (as proven by you), more skilled, greater knowledge of the Force. More than enough to beat Maul's apparently greater strength.

Addressed above.

LOL Based on what? He can't even take Kenobi!

Kenobi's younger as well. Doesn't help him. You're grasping for straws.

Anakin's style has failed plenty of times to overpower Dooku. It was Anakin's increasing raw power that defeated him (and Dooku still almost took him out in the same fight despite being outnumbered).

So you've proven nothing. Dooku's style has shown the most variety, and most consistency at stomping opponents. Maul's the one who struggles against Kenobi.

So still waiting for anything Maul has done which puts him on Dooku's level. Keep avoiding and derailing 😂

That isn't above Maul's level which is a rival to Sheev. Maul has also taken on two jedi before and skill wise came out on top. Abc logic. Dooku threatened his allies he never was a serious threat. Yodalost to Sheev as well though.

I already went over Maul's superioty and how the abc logic has nothing to with Maul and Dooku.

Anakin killed him. Once he got angry it was game over. We already went over this and you repeating yourself is pathetic.

No, he has good timing just like maul has against Kenobi. Maul isn't Kenobi.

Precise style allows this not due to superior quickness. Ventress is faster than Dooku but not more skilled with a saber.

Sheev, Windu. I have also said this multiple times.

I can't remember.

Taking on Qui and Kenobi.

He has beaten him multiple times. Fleeing from Maul isn't winning.

Maul beat him in clone wars. He killed Qui but that doesn't make Kenobi greater than a master who Maul beat.

No, he started losing after he got him angry. Quit lying.

No, it isn't as defensive as a style as kenobis.

Maul has always beaten him because he's his superior. Sheev would consider Kenobi a punk not some rival like he did to Maul.

False. We see the movements and that Dooku isn't quicker but more skilled. He can't move as fast as Ventress but he owns her due to being more skilled.

He has. Abc logic. Anakin couldn't take Kenobi but he beat Dooku. 😂
You just owned yourself with that silly point. Backfire.

Youth is always an advantage.

Anakin's rage, and aggressive style won and with relative ease. Dooku gets beat by an angry Maul as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he has on the rots commentary.

Apparently if not if there is still there is this debate and evidence to support Sidious throwing the fight.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Apparently if not if there is still there is this debate and evidence to support Sidious throwing the fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No evidence at all just conspiracy theories. Lucas said Windu overcame him. End of story.

Plenty of evidence that brings this as a strong possibility. Lucas really doesn't care and his commentary hasn't really ended anything.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Plenty of evidence that brings this as a strong possibility. Lucas really doesn't care and his commentary hasn't really ended anything.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He already closed the matter. You never made any sense with your crazy he threw the fight nonsense, fanboy.

Again apparently not if this debate continues. You're just stupid and biased so you wouldn't understand.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Again apparently not if this debate continues. You're just stupid and biased so you wouldn't understand.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have evidence and Lucas.

I have evidence, you have what you believe Lucas meant.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I have evidence, you have what you believe Lucas meant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I have evidence. You have nothing.

Coming from the guy who says that direct evidence brought to him isn't true.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Watch the sequences of the films and you can plainly see Maul is faster than Dooku.

LOL Is that your argument? Matching the choreography? Going by that logic Maul is faster than Palpatine, and Mace/Palpatine are the 2 of the slowest duelists in the franchise.

Here show me Maul sword fight faster than this 0:30-0:34:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqeEjv1_eOc

And fight faster than this 1:15-1:25:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pI8IkWa3LQ

^ In that one he's clearly faster than Obi-Wan whose just as fast as Maul. Your denial doesn't change the facts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't above Maul's level which is a rival to Sheev.

LOL Clearly you missed Sheev Stomping Maul.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul has also taken on two jedi before and skill wise came out on top.

LOL 2 Vastly inferior Jedi.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dooku threatened his allies he never was a serious threat.

He Stomped Kenobi and he's stomped Ventress. Something Maul has failed to do multiple times.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yodalost to Sheev as well though.

LOL Yoda matched Sidious in Sabers and in the Force. In fact the script has him winning the Saber fight, which is why one scene Sidious has his Saber but the next scene his Saber's gone but Yoda still has his.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already went over Maul's superioty and how the abc logic has nothing to with Maul and Dooku.

No, you've just made up things without any proof whatsoever. This whole debate you've failed to post even one video or picture or canon quote to back up any of your claims.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Anakin killed him.

Which has nothing to do with Maul. Maul's consistently failed to outright defeat Kenobi.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Once he got angry it was game over.

He was angry before then. He just got even more angry afterwards. And Dooku was getting tired after fighting almost defeating 2 Opponents simultaneously.

In any case Maul's no Anakin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We already went over this and you repeating yourself is pathetic.

Yes and you've repeatedly failed to substantiate any of your claims.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he has good timing just like maul has against Kenobi. Maul isn't Kenobi.

Maul's equal to Kenobi. Dooku's >> Kenobi.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Precise style allows this not due to superior quickness.

Dooku moves faster than Obi-Wan/Anakin/Maul as shown in the above videos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ventress is faster than Dooku but not more skilled with a saber.

Ventress is faster than Count frigging Dooku??? HAHAHAHAHAHA

Dooku dances around Opress and Ventress together. Even when Dooku has no weapon Ventress can't hit him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S2bY8JY5Fk

Here Dooku while blind and drugged fights off Ventress+2 Nightsisters:

From 1:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmNivB-ThQY

You frankly have to be stupid after watching them to think Ventress is even as fast as Dooku, let alone faster.

Which is actually more proof Dooker is faster than Maul/Kenobi/Ventress level speed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sheev, Windu. I have also said this multiple times.

You're clearly getting frustrated because of how badly you're losing this debate.

Sheev completely stomped Maul, you're being silly even bringing that up.

Dooku not only lasted longer against Yoda than Maul did against Sheev, but didn't get disarmed and TK Stomped all over the place.

And what about Windu? Are you claiming Count Dooku, someone a whole league above Kenobi, Ventress and Opress can't even fight Windu? LOL Don't be desperate.

He's Older, More experienced and hence greater than Maul. And can in fact fight Windu and Kenobi together. Educate yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1ieRQ-4BB4

Originally posted by quanchi112
Taking on Qui and Kenobi.

Pfft that's not even close to Dooku's league.

You want to play a numbers game? Try 3 opponents! While Blind and Drugges! LOL

Originally posted by quanchi112
THe has beaten him multiple times. Fleeing from Maul isn't winning.

LOL It was Maul who fled from Kenobi last time they fought.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul beat him in clone wars.

Nah. He fled form Kenobi in the last fight. Only began beating him in the first fight after Kenobi took time out to help Ventress.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He killed Qui but that doesn't make Kenobi greater than a master who Maul beat.

Obviously. But stomping Kenobi 3/3 times >> than struggling to get even an edge over Kenobi 3/3 times.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he started losing after he got him angry. Quit lying.

Prove it. I have the script from Lucas which says differently. Because unlike you I don't just make things up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't as defensive as a style as kenobis.

Oh it is almost just as defensive. It's even more energy efficient but needs to give more ground because it's mainly a one handed style of fencing.
But in Dooku's case that leaves his other hand free for Force attacks(or physical attacks), which Dooku takes full advantage of.
You can see it clearly in this fight:

From 0:14 onwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSO1SjHQfCA

It's also clear in his TCW fight against Obi-Wan and Anakin which I posted above.

Against Ventress & Opress though he was fighting them in a more cramped space, so couldn't give as much ground, which is why he spent more effort dodging their strikes completely.

Funny thing is to defeat Opress, Maul didn't use his normal Offensive style but used Dooku's style (giving ground against a Physically powerful offensive fighter, while deflecting his strikes to the side, and doing it One-Handed, using his free hand to strike Physically- could have also used it for a Tk attack):

@1:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc2SF6RuXUw

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul has always beaten him because he's his superior. Sheev would consider Kenobi a punk not some rival like he did to Maul.

LOL Sheev would Stomp them both combined just the same. Maul wouldn't last any longer than Kenobi.

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. We see the movements and that Dooku isn't quicker but more skilled. He can't move as fast as Ventress but he owns her due to being more skilled.

LOL @ the continual desperate unsubstantiated arguments.

Addressed above anyway.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He has. Abc logic. Anakin couldn't take Kenobi but he beat Dooku. 😂
You just owned yourself with that silly point. Backfire.

Dooku almost took out Anakin and Kenobi combined 😬

He's clearly more skilled and faster than either of them. Anakin defeating Dooku (after help from Kenobi) is not something either Kenobi or Maul of capable of. Anakin has "Raw Power" beyond any Jedi or Sith, hence him overpowering beings more powerful than Yoda and Sidious in one episode. And he's been credited as being on Sheev/Yoda/Mace's level in Sabers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Youth is always an advantage.

LOL

Youth doesn't hold a candle to factors such as Experience, Skill and Knowledge of The Force.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Anakin's rage, and aggressive style won and with relative ease. Dooku gets beat by an angry Maul as well.

LOL Maul is no Anakin.

You're being ridiculous saying because Dooku got beat by an offensive fighter one time, after he was outnumbered, therefore, Maul will beat him because he's also an offensive fighter.

Guess what? Wind's an offensive fighter. I guess that means Either Anakin or Maul can beat Sheev in a Saber fight right? Just because they're both "Offensive" fighters as well?!

LMAO

I've broken down your ridiculous argument point by point. And you've still completely failed to point out ANYTHING Maul has done that put's him on Dooku's level.

Instead all you're left with is "Well this one angry guy who fights Offensively eventually beat Dooku after many many attempts, therefore I'm sure My guy whose also Angry and fights Offensively, but without anywhere near the Raw Force Potential, will beat him as well"

You've been owned.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Coming from the guy who says that direct evidence brought to him isn't true.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
LOL Is that your argument? Matching the choreography? Going by that logic Maul is faster than Palpatine, and Mace/Palpatine are the 2 of the slowest duelists in the franchise.

Here show me Maul sword fight faster than this 0:30-0:34:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqeEjv1_eOc

And fight faster than this 1:15-1:25:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pI8IkWa3LQ

^ In that one he's clearly faster than Obi-Wan whose just as fast as Maul. Your denial doesn't change the facts.

LOL Clearly you missed Sheev Stomping Maul.

LOL 2 Vastly inferior Jedi.

He Stomped Kenobi and he's stomped Ventress. Something Maul has failed to do multiple times.

LOL Yoda matched Sidious in Sabers and in the Force. In fact the script has him winning the Saber fight, which is why one scene Sidious has his Saber but the next scene his Saber's gone but Yoda still has his.

No, you've just made up things without any proof whatsoever. This whole debate you've failed to post even one video or picture or canon quote to back up any of your claims.

Which has nothing to do with Maul. Maul's consistently failed to outright defeat Kenobi.

He was angry before then. He just got even more angry afterwards. And Dooku was getting tired after fighting almost defeating 2 Opponents simultaneously.

In any case Maul's no Anakin.

Yes and you've repeatedly failed to substantiate any of your claims.

Maul's equal to Kenobi. Dooku's >> Kenobi.

Dooku moves faster than Obi-Wan/Anakin/Maul as shown in the above videos.

Ventress is faster than Count frigging Dooku??? HAHAHAHAHAHA

Dooku dances around Opress and Ventress together. Even when Dooku has no weapon Ventress can't hit him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S2bY8JY5Fk

Here Dooku while blind and drugged fights off Ventress+2 Nightsisters:

From 1:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmNivB-ThQY

You frankly have to be stupid after watching them to think Ventress is even as fast as Dooku, let alone faster.

Which is actually more proof Dooker is faster than Maul/Kenobi/Ventress level speed.

You're clearly getting frustrated because of how badly you're losing this debate.

Sheev completely stomped Maul, you're being silly even bringing that up.

Dooku not only lasted longer against Yoda than Maul did against Sheev, but didn't get disarmed and TK Stomped all over the place.

And what about Windu? Are you claiming Count Dooku, someone a whole league above Kenobi, Ventress and Opress can't even fight Windu? LOL Don't be desperate.

He's Older, More experienced and hence greater than Maul. And can in fact fight Windu and Kenobi together. Educate yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1ieRQ-4BB4

Pfft that's not even close to Dooku's league.

You want to play a numbers game? Try 3 opponents! While Blind and Drugges! LOL

LOL It was Maul who fled from Kenobi last time they fought.

Nah. He fled form Kenobi in the last fight. Only began beating him in the first fight after Kenobi took time out to help Ventress.

Obviously. But stomping Kenobi 3/3 times >> than struggling to get even an edge over Kenobi 3/3 times.

Prove it. I have the script from Lucas which says differently. Because unlike you I don't just make things up.

Oh it is almost just as defensive. It's even more energy efficient but needs to give more ground because it's mainly a one handed style of fencing.
But in Dooku's case that leaves his other hand free for Force attacks(or physical attacks), which Dooku takes full advantage of.
You can see it clearly in this fight:

From 0:14 onwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSO1SjHQfCA

It's also clear in his TCW fight against Obi-Wan and Anakin which I posted above.

Against Ventress & Opress though he was fighting them in a more cramped space, so couldn't give as much ground, which is why he spent more effort dodging their strikes completely.

Funny thing is to defeat Opress, Maul didn't use his normal Offensive style but used Dooku's style (giving ground against a Physically powerful offensive fighter, while deflecting his strikes to the side, and doing it One-Handed, using his free hand to strike Physically- could have also used it for a Tk attack):

@1:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc2SF6RuXUw

LOL Sheev would Stomp them both combined just the same. Maul wouldn't last any longer than Kenobi.

LOL @ the continual desperate unsubstantiated arguments.

Addressed above anyway.

Dooku almost took out Anakin and Kenobi combined 😬

He's clearly more skilled and faster than either of them. Anakin defeating Dooku (after help from Kenobi) is not something either Kenobi or Maul of capable of. Anakin has "Raw Power" beyond any Jedi or Sith, hence him overpowering beings more powerful than Yoda and Sidious in one episode. And he's been credited as being on Sheev/Yoda/Mace's level in Sabers.

LOL

Youth doesn't hold a candle to factors such as Experience, Skill and Knowledge of The Force.

LOL Maul is no Anakin.

You're being ridiculous saying because Dooku got beat by an offensive fighter one time, after he was outnumbered, therefore, Maul will beat him because he's also an offensive fighter.

Guess what? Wind's an offensive fighter. I guess that means Either Anakin or Maul can beat Sheev in a Saber fight right? Just because they're both "Offensive" fighters as well?!

LMAO

I've broken down your ridiculous argument point by point. And you've still completely failed to point out ANYTHING Maul has done that put's him on Dooku's level.

Instead all you're left with is "Well this one angry guy who fights Offensively eventually beat Dooku after many many attempts, therefore I'm sure My guy whose also Angry and fights Offensively, but without anywhere near the Raw Force Potential, will beat him as well"

You've been owned.

What is this supposed to be ? This is just an exaggerated clip which is ridiculous.

Kenobi isn't as fast as Maul. Maul has always been greater than Kenobi and here we are once again at your ridiculous Abc logic land.

Sheev won but he didn't stomp. A stomp is Anakin killing Dooku in record time.,

Based on ? Qui is no joke so do not disrespect him anymore.

Anakin lost to Kenobi skill wise and Maul has never been defeated skill wise so there goes your flimsy theory. Anakin killed Dooku.

Yoda was temp ko'd and fled. He lost. So what ? Sheev had the higher ground and prevailed. Shame on Yoda.

Irony.

Dooku beating Kenobi has nothing to do with Maul you hypocrite.

No, after Dooku fanned the flames Anakin ended it quickly. At no point was Dooku fatigued. He fought over two opponents before and the majority of the fight was one on one. You're a fanboy.

Irony x2.

No, and that's abc logic. Kenobi beat Anakin who beat Dooku, idiot.

No, your exaggerations aren't proof.

Due to superior skill not speed. Dooku doesn't waste movement and is superbly precise.

Yes, and he defeated inferior opponents is who cares.

Ventress is faster but not as powerful or as skilled hence why she loses.

Sheev prevailed but he never stomped. Sheev ko'd Yoda much faster than he beat Maul so irony. Sheev beat Yoda.

Why because you say so. Vastly inferior opponents to Obi and Qui. 😂

False. Maul spared his life to make him see his ex killed.

Your ignorance knows no bounds. Become familiar with the source material.

Abc logic and absurd. Obi beat Anakin. 😂

Listen to their words. You said Lucas doesn't count in another thread, hypocrite.

Maul stomped oppress all the same. He did it with relative ease thus showing he is versatile.

Kenobi isn't a rival and is Maul's inferior. You're an idiot.

He didn't. Anakin killed him, coulda, woulda, shoulda.

Youth, power, and skill were in Anakin's favor. It beat Dooku.

Maul is greater than Anakin in a duel.

You just continue to repost silly abc logic and dance away from the Kenobi comparison since Anakin lost to him but killed Dooku. Sit back in the corner with your bib on because you've been schooled.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your theoris aren't evidence but my facts are.

Theories are backed by evidence.

So now Quan is saying Maul is faster than Sidious. All debates end. Quan has reached a level of stupidity that non can match.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Theories are backed by evidence.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So now Quan is saying Maul is faster than Sidious. All debates end. Quan has reached a level of stupidity that non can match.