ROTJ Luke runs the PT era Sith gauntlet

Started by Darth Thor5 pages

I'm taking this debate (if you can call it that) to the Maul vs Dooku thread.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I'm taking this debate (if you can call it that) to the Maul vs Dooku thread.
Whatever you say, bucko.

I think Luke would be able to take out Opress due to Luke's more sophisticated style and due to the fact that Luke is a more intelligent fighter. I also think that Luke would be able to overwhelm Ventress in a similar way to Anakin did on Yavin 4 and as for Maul I think the fight would be fairly even but due to Maul's arrogance Luke would be able to find a weakness in his technique and exploit it. However I don't believe Luke would be able to beat Dooku and while I think Luke may be able to go on the offensive initially I think Dooku will be able to out fence him with his more sophisticated style and hack him to pieces!

Originally posted by Imperial Knight
I think Luke would be able to take out Opress due to Luke's more sophisticated style and due to the fact that Luke is a more intelligent fighter. I also think that Luke would be able to overwhelm Ventress in a similar way to Anakin did on Yavin 4 and as for Maul I think the fight would be fairly even but due to Maul's arrogance Luke would be able to find a weakness in his technique and exploit it. However I don't believe Luke would be able to beat Dooku and while I think Luke may be able to go on the offensive initially I think Dooku will be able to out fence him with his more sophisticated style and hack him to pieces!
Luke would lose to Maul every single time. Dooku was also arrogant right before Anakin killed him by taunting him into anger.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Luke would lose to Maul every single time. Dooku was also arrogant right before Anakin killed him by taunting him into anger.

It wasn't arrogance, he was trying to turn him to the dark side as per Sidious's orders.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
It wasn't arrogance, he was trying to turn him to the dark side as per Sidious's orders.
It was arrogance and guess what Dooku died because of it. Nothing in the film suggests this.

Really it wasn't arrogance. He hasn't just tried dun moch on Anakin a lot, so why out of no where do it now? Lucas has already stated this was a test by Sidious, so it's very much entirely possible Sidious too Dooku to do that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was arrogance and guess what Dooku died because of it. Nothing in the film suggests this.

Try listening to the audio commentary by Lucas. Dooku was told they're testing Anakin to see if he's a potential dark sider.

You don't have my Knowledge of SW so don't argue.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Really it wasn't arrogance. He hasn't just tried dun moch on Anakin a lot, so why out of no where do it now? Lucas has already stated this was a test by Sidious, so it's very much entirely possible Sidious too Dooku to do that.
It was still arrogance because in a lightsaber duel when you lose you can die. He erred greatly.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Try listening to the audio commentary by Lucas. Dooku was told they're testing Anakin to see if he's a potential dark sider.

You don't have my Knowledge of SW so don't argue.

So Dooku was too trusting so that's perfect. He's both stupid and arrogant to presume Anakin wouldn't kill him. Dooku tires easily, is too trusting of his master, and is arrogant. What a buffoon.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was still arrogance because in a lightsaber duel when you lose you can die. He erred greatly.

So just because he lost doesn't mean he was arrogant. Real arrogance was when you boyfriend maul freakin stared at Kenobi instead of killing him and then getting bisected. 😂

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So just because he lost doesn't mean he was arrogant. Real arrogance was when you boyfriend maul freakin stared at Kenobi instead of killing him and then getting bisected. 😂
He was arrogant and paid for it with his life. Maul didn't die though. Dooku died. Poor thing. Maul is greater than Dooku the known yes man for Sheev. Weak.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was arrogant and paid for it with his life. Maul didn't die though. Dooku died. Poor thing. Maul is greater than Dooku the known yes man for Sheev. Weak.

Again wasn't arrogance. Anakin was just better. Maul got lucky. Still where's your proof that Maul is better? What is your proof? Him being younger, while an advantage, doesn't compare to force power, and dueling advantage which Dooku also has the edge in.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Again wasn't arrogance. Anakin was just better. Maul got lucky. Still where's your proof that Maul is better? What is your proof? Him being younger, while an advantage, doesn't compare to force power, and dueling advantage which Dooku also has the edge in.
Yes, it was. It was arrogance because he angered him and he knew what rages leads to and didn't contemplate death. It cost him his life. he's a dead fool.

His strikes are more powerful just like Anakin was more powerful despite at the time Dooku being more force knowledgeable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it was. It was arrogance because he angered him and he knew what rages leads to and didn't contemplate death. It cost him his life. he's a dead fool.

His strikes are more powerful just like Anakin was more powerful despite at the time Dooku being more force knowledgeable.

Not arrogance. That's a Sith thing. It's called Dun Moch. It's supposed to throw the opponent off balance as seen by Darth Maul vs Obi Wan for their first rematch.

Maul isn't Anakin. Dooku has shown to take Anakins Strikes.

https://youtu.be/eYT3ctPuVRw 1:07-1:12 he takes the combined might of Obi and Ani. And again at 1:23-1:27 takes Anakin head on with no problem 1:33-1:36, 1:44-1:45 even makes Anakin's hilt fly black, 2:04-2:08 takes Anakins attacks. 2:08-2:21 survives the blade lock for that long agaisnt a more physically stronger opponent. 2:22-2:29 able to tank those furious blows and even smile about it. In the end Anakin beat Dooku though a more finess move, but he still survived all of that. If you need more examples just ask.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Not arrogance. That's a Sith thing. It's called Dun Moch. It's supposed to throw the opponent off balance as seen by Darth Maul vs Obi Wan for their first rematch.

Maul isn't Anakin. Dooku has shown to take Anakins Strikes.

https://youtu.be/eYT3ctPuVRw 1:07-1:12 he takes the combined might of Obi and Ani. And again at 1:23-1:27 takes Anakin head on with no problem 1:33-1:36, 1:44-1:45 even makes Anakin's hilt fly black, 2:04-2:08 takes Anakins attacks. 2:08-2:21 survives the blade lock for that long agaisnt a more physically stronger opponent. 2:22-2:29 able to tank those furious blows and even smile about it. In the end Anakin beat Dooku though a more finess move, but he still survived all of that. If you need more examples just ask.

So you believe he just erred. Mhahahhaaha. You believe he just ****ed up.

Anakin powered through him with stronger attacks. It was glorious. Dooku died like a true chump with an astonished look on his face. What a loser.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you believe he just erred. Mhahahhaaha. You believe he just ****ed up.

Anakin powered through him with stronger attacks. It was glorious. Dooku died like a true chump with an astonished look on his face. What a loser.

It's called backfiring.

No he didn't. Did you even look at the video, and the time stamp?

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
It's called backfiring.

No he didn't. Did you even look at the video, and the time stamp?

So you agree he ****ed up.

Yes, I did.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you agree he ****ed up.

Yes, I did.

It backfired is all I have to say.

So you agree Dooku did take a lot of those attacks before going down.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
It backfired is all I have to say.

So you agree Dooku did take a lot of those attacks before going down.

Backfired means ****ed up so you're too cowardly to even say so.

Dooku went down quickly and easily. Weak.