Then the child is very possibly boned- and this is one of the major issues all public school systems face. It's relatively easy to teach kids who live in comfortable standards. Nearly all the issues in public education come from having to teach society as a whole, with all its issues of poverty, learning difficulties and cultural differences.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Playtime fosters creativity and no rules socialization.Where is if you in school, you are kind of steered a a direction.
Also homeschool isnt' the way it used to be, where you just sat at home. Now homeschoolers have co op's and have classes with other kids in specified locations set up by parents. So the idea that you are isolated to just your parents is a think of the past.
You are still exceptionally isolated in those circumstances- like I say, homeschooling is the preserve of a particular advantaged middle-class subset. It is isolation from wider society and it is isolation from a broad scope of academic ideas.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I like how they made Ned Flanders the homeschool dad, pretty accurate.State schools are necessary, not everyone can be homeschooled, and a lot of parents are not fit to homeschool children anyways. I am in favour of private options as long as they have to adhere to certain minimum requirements. And while state schools may be in need of a lot of reform and increased funding, they are still a necessary part of societies staying stable.
Were you educated in public school?
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Why are people graduating and allowed to graduate that can't read, and do you see this a failure and if so, who's fault?
People that can't read become very adept at hiding that fact. I think it is a failure. And it is the fault of the system, society, the parents and to some, possibly very small, degree the person themselves.
Originally posted by Bardock42
People that can't read become very adept at hiding that fact. I think it is a failure. And it is the fault of the system, society, the parents and to some, possibly very small, degree the person themselves.
That's a general at fault statement, it should not even be allowed to be this way, and the buck should stop with the school allowing this to happen.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
If you can't read you don't graduate.
Hmm, I suppose, I guess what is missing is a component for people who do not want to or can't work in office or academic environments, because even if you can't read you may still have very useful and worthwhile skills in other areas.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Hmm, I suppose, I guess what is missing is a component for people who do not want to or can't work in office or academic environments, because even if you can't read you may still have very useful and worthwhile skills in other areas.
We live in a world and a system where reading is easy and you learn how to do it from a young age, no one is that stupid that they should not be able to read after 12 years of school. Its a failure if its simply not enforced or just overlooked. Even if you are a factory worker or meat packer, you need to know how to read and multiply.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
The real question is how you get them to read.
I like this idea
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Yes schooling should still exist at home even if the child's primary education is public, I agree, its up to the parents to cement learning.What if the parents are just not around, or don't care?
Yes then what.
How would they be homeschooled?
The ones who are live in areas with terrible schools aren't the ones who can or do receive homeschooling.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Yes then what.How would they be homeschooled?
The ones who are live in areas with terrible schools aren't the ones who can or do receive homeschooling.
No obviously if the parents arn't there to cement learning for their kids from a public school they wont be there for homeschool.
I was originally comparing the actual education between the two types of learning.
Brass Tax Question, Which is better learning iyo, regardless of social bullshit talks, who learns more?
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
No obviously if the parents arn't there to cement learning for their kids from a public school they wont be there for homeschool.I was originally comparing the actual education between the two types of learning.
Brass Tax Question, Which is better learning iyo, regardless of social bullshit talks, who learns more?
Okay, I was considering it in more realistic terms. The ones who actually can get homeschooled aren't the ones who necessarily need it/actually benefit from it.
Who learns the most? Depends on the kid and the parents
Having 1 teacher to 1 student is ideal and SHOULD be better, but that isn't always the case. There a couple of things to consider, and that's the lack of group work, presentations, competition and so on. What's worse is that the ones who should in theory fit homeschooling, ie does not like competitions, does poorly in crowds, low social intelligence, are the ones who need it the most.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Okay, I was considering it in more realistic terms. The ones who actually can get homeschooled aren't the ones who necessarily need it/actually benefit from it.Who learns the most? Depends on the kid and the parents
Having 1 teacher to 1 student is ideal and SHOULD be better, but that isn't always the case. There a couple of things to consider, and that's the lack of group work, presentations, competition and so on. What's worse is that the ones who should in theory fit homeschooling, ie does not like competitions, does poorly in crowds, low social intelligence, are the ones who need it the most.
I addressed this earlier, in cased you missed it.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Playtime fosters creativity and no rules socialization.Where is if you in school, you are kind of steered a a direction.
Also homeschool isnt' the way it used to be, where you just sat at home. Now homeschoolers have co op's and have classes with other kids in specified locations set up by parents. So the idea that you are isolated to just your parents is a think of the past. They also have access to teachers online.