Are state teachers and school's necessary?

Started by Time-Immemorial4 pages
Originally posted by Digi
That's...not a rebuttal. I also have no political pony in this race. I'm entirely removed from the profession. But some really, really obvious observations from the profession seem to disagree with some of what you've posted; like the correlation between economic factors and academic success, and how home schooling is an inadequate response to this. I'd love a solution to this. I just don't see it in home schooling. Do you have an actual response?

Homeschooling can be affective I have already stated examples. 👆

Feel free to disagree, we will never agree anyways. Besides I don't really like talking to mods here, you all gang up and pat each other on the back like you did already.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Playtime fosters creativity and no rules socialization.

Where is if you in school, you are kind of steered a a direction.

Also homeschool isnt' the way it used to be, where you just sat at home. Now homeschoolers have co op's and have classes with other kids in specified locations set up by parents. So the idea that you are isolated to just your parents is a think of the past.

Here is the thing, do you know how cruel kids can be, though? Having "no rules socialization" is not necessarily a good think.

Originally posted by Surtur
Here is the thing, do you know how cruel kids can be, though? Having "no rules socialization" is not necessarily a good think.

I think you took that a bit further then how I meant it.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I think you took that a bit further then how I meant it.

But then I do not see what rules for playing together a school would have as opposed to a bunch of parents homeschooling their children.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Homeschooling can be affective I have already stated examples. 👆

Feel free to disagree, we will never agree anyways. Besides I don't really like talking to mods here, you all gang up and pat each other on the back like you did already.

See, this is dumb. I responded with points that DID address your OP and subsequent posts. I wouldn't have posted if I weren't interested in a discussion. I'm patently not here just to reinforce my beliefs. I enjoy engaging with those who disagree with me. You're choosing not to, so meh, but it's antithetical to the whole idea of a discussion forum. Are you just here to trumpet your views, and not actually interact?

I also didn't say home schooling can't be effective. I said that it's a woefully inadequate solution for the aspects of public schools that aren't succeeding. It's an affluent solution to a poor problem. Am I wrong? If so, why?

You seem to take disagreement as an affront, when it's just disagreement. I'm not in a particular camp here; believe it or not, home schooling isn't an issue I've chosen to plant my flag on. I'm just shooting the sh*t based on what little I've seen. I'd actually enjoy a discussion that enlightens me a bit more. But it's hard when there's such resistance like this.

Also, I've done right about 2 mod actions in the last 4 years that didn't involve banning ad spammers. My position has nothing to do with this thread.

Ok, so what are your takes in how long should a kid be homeschooled (assuming it's possible at all)? How many kids should a tutor have? Obviously school is an integral part of how the young socialize, at some point you need to build their connections and their interactions.

Why do people respond seriously to Supra's posts?

@Time,

I don't see homeschooling as a viable alternative to the large-scale public schooling.

The kids who graduate without learning how to read 'arent meant to learn how to read'. They're probably from an area which is wholly neglected and there's no reason to think that they would be better off if they were homeschooled.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Why do people respond seriously to Supra's posts?

He's the only one who makes threads here so the mods won't ban him 👆

Originally posted by Bentley
Ok, so what are your takes in how long should a kid be homeschooled (assuming it's possible at all)? How many kids should a tutor have? Obviously school is an integral part of how the young socialize, at some point you need to build their connections and their interactions.

I posted about this already, and reposted it.

You can still have interactions on a smaller more controllable scale. Through co op programs, where kids parents and say one teacher get together in a predetermined area and have this experience like a classrooms setting. Privatizing education and then self administering by parents and teachers on a smaller scale has more impact then a kid in a public school that gets looked over.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Why do people respond seriously to Supra's posts?

Coming from the guy who looks up to murderous thugs and Bill Cosby, why would anyone take you serious? I can tell your real worked up about this, feel free to add something in or shut up and quit trolling 👆

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I posted about this already, and reposted it.

You can still have interactions on a smaller more controllable scale. Through co op programs, where kids parents and say one teacher get together in a predetermined area and have this experience like a classrooms setting. Privatizing education and then self administering by parents and teachers on a smaller scale has more impact then a kid in a public school that gets looked over.

I appreciate your contribution in that matter 👆

I kind of wondered if there was contention about it or what the main arguments were for possible arguments on it.