Very well, I will accept that if Im wrong.Not even sure what were actually debating anymore, Namor is the weakest of the three here. Regardless, Surfer stomps, this isnt a boxing match. They have no way of even fighting back against someone who can simply bombard them from space, radiate and dehydrate Namor before he can do anything, wipe their minds etc. Surfer wins everytime
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Very well, I will accept that if Im wrong.Not even sure what were actually debating anymore, Namor is the weakest of the three here.
Surfer stomps them though.
I just dont see it. Herc has lifted the heavens and closed dimensions with his strength. I still think Namor is under him strength wise....but comics. I mean Ben Grimm was stated to punch harder and trounced Namor underwater in AvsX. But he has had some good showings lately so perhaps he has gotten more powerful. Regardless...he is fishsticks in this match and we all agree for once.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I just dont see it. Herc has lifted the heavens and closed dimensions with his strength.
Fact remains, Hercules has never beat Namor. Namor has stalemated him on land and straight up overpowered him underwater (despite sucker attacks from other Avengers).
Lifting don't mean sh|t if you getting your @$$ handed to you in a fight.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Very well, I will accept that if Im wrong.Not even sure what were actually debating anymore, Namor is the weakest of the three here. Regardless, Surfer stomps, this isnt a boxing match. They have no way of even fighting back against someone who can simply bombard them from space, radiate and dehydrate Namor before he can do anything, wipe their minds etc. Surfer wins everytime
Originally posted by zopzopNamor never overpowered Hercules. Thing has given Hulk a decent fight before, so has Colossus. I consider Hercules generally above Namor.
You realize that in all the times Namor and Hercules have fought, Hercules has NEVER beaten him. Namor has stalemated him on land and outright overpowered him underwater.Surfer stomps them btw.
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the avengers battle was a stalemate on land, but herc only started a fight because he was trying to HELP namor. he never had any intention of actually really trying to hurt him. he just wanted to get namor out of his funk...
the incredible herc series battle was too brief to be meaningful--and again, herc didn't want to fight him--he was there to help--again.
the time where namor looked 'superior' underwater? namor had herc in a hold that herc seemed unable to break, but it was hardly a fight....
herc is the stronger of the 2. like thor is stronger. underwater it is much closer. differences are negligible. but of course namor's speed and ability to breathe means he would win underwater--doesn't mean he is stronger though. on land, black suit or no, herc would take him were he going full out. but it is pretty close. namor has some good feats and is def elite in strength.
Originally posted by leonidas
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the avengers battle was a stalemate on land, but herc only started a fight because he was trying to HELP namor. he never had any intention of actually really trying to hurt him. he just wanted to get namor out of his funk...the incredible herc series battle was too brief to be meaningful--and again, herc didn't want to fight him--he was there to help--again.
the time where namor looked 'superior' underwater? namor had herc in a hold that herc seemed unable to break, but it was hardly a fight....
herc is the stronger of the 2. like thor is stronger. underwater it is much closer. differences are negligible. but of course namor's speed and ability to breathe means he would win underwater--doesn't mean he is stronger though. on land, black suit or no, herc would take him were he going full out. but it is pretty close. namor has some good feats and is def elite in strength.
And you are leaving out a lot of context in their underwater fight. Both Vision and Thunderstrike sucker attacked Namor then Hercules jumped in. Despite help Namor was easily his superior underwater. He even had to deal with Crystal who was bragging about her elemental control of water. So yeah.
a funk doesn't mean he was weakened. and he was in said because BECAUSE hercules was consistently shown to be superior to him in that avengers run. and, funk=/= weakened. at all. 😐
crystal had nothing to do with that "fight". the only direct confrontation they had was that hold, which herc broke using the seafloor. so, you claim these land battles were 'stalemates', well, namor has never taken herc out underwater either, and was clearly shown being weaker than him on panel.
hercules has literally one-shotted the abomination--even underwater abomination gave namor a great battle. their relative battles against thor don't even come close. utterly SOUSED/poisoned, herc demolished tiger shark (and was stalemating the wrecking crew+mr hyde until goliath attacked from behind...) who has given namor fits on more than one occasion. a truly po'd herc almost (literally) killed wonder man in a couple of hits. namor, not so much....
i won't debate this further because it should be clear to everyone. herc is the superior of the 2 in strength but it's close underwater and in general namor is a relative peer.
Originally posted by leonidas
a funk doesn't mean he was weakened. and he was in said because BECAUSE hercules was consistently shown to be superior to him in that avengers run. and, funk=/= weakened. at all. 😐
crystal had nothing to do with that "fight". the only direct confrontation they had was that hold, which herc broke using the seafloor. so, you claim these land battles were 'stalemates', well, namor has never taken herc out underwater either, and was clearly shown being weaker than him on panel.
Why are you leaving out that Vision and Thunderstrike sucker attacked Namor and THEN Hercules jumped in to fight him?
hercules has literally one-shotted the abomination--even underwater abomination gave namor a great battle. their relative battles against thor don't even come close. utterly SOUSED/poisoned, herc demolished tiger shark (and was stalemating the wrecking crew+mr hyde until goliath attacked from behind...) who has given namor fits on more than one occasion. a truly po'd herc almost (literally) killed wonder man in a couple of hits. namor, not so much....
I debate based offwhat would go down in a real fight with characters that have these powersets. Everyone else on this site debates how the characters would fight if they had 0 IQ points and are written by the most unimaginative writer ever. Thats where things like Odin headbutting Galactus comes in. How can you debate how a character "acts" during a fight when they have acted a hundred different ways by a hundred different writers.
So.....Norrin lands, sends his board away, de-amps himself, and then uses his face to continuously attack Namor and Hercules fists. He loses. Namor then punches Hercs head off because he is continuously written as a dick and he made Thanos bleed.
Namor wins.
How the hell did this turn into Herc vs Namor, lol. Although the likes of Hulk, Thor, Herc are said to be stronger, its always been minimal difference in strength when it came to actual battle. Even on land, Namor has been able to put Hulk on his ass, so the strength overall matters not.
The Thor shot in the rain was a cheap shot from behind if im thinking of the right instance you all are talking about. And Namor was up within a panel?(been a while since ive seen it).
Now as far as this fight go, its hard to say. It all actually depends on Surfer. Physically, i dont see him as being a match for either of the 2 let alone them together.
Tossup!
