Hercules & Namor Vs Silver Surfer

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Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Namor should also be a notch above him.

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Originally posted by zopzop

Mental state often affects a characters performance. That's why I mentioned it.

Crystal had everything to do with taht fight. She was manhandling Namor's friends till Namor got pissed and put an end to it. This was after he dealt with Hercules.

Why are you leaving out that Vision and Thunderstrike sucker attacked Namor and THEN Hercules jumped in to fight him?

Hercules attacked Abom from behind. Hulk has ONE SHOT koed Thor before with a sucker attack (Thor was looking right at him but didn't expect the hit). Why is this news? [/B]

because crystal had nothing to do with the hold herc was in. who cares what happened before?? namor put herc in a hold. that was the 'fight'. i didn't bring it up. the whole showing is utterly meaningless. as is the fight where herc was trying to rouse namor from his funk. in NO fight did herc ever actually really go at namor.

as for abomination--it was funny as hell and it was clearly intended to show that herc>abom. abom was spouting off, herc said excuse me and took him out. lol

against same and similar opponents herc has done better (markedly better in some case) than namor. we have clear, on panel proof herc is stronger, even underwater, though he's lose, as hulk did. i've gone over this many times with many people. i'd happily bz herc/namor who is stronger if it came to that.

as for the thread--ss would simply dehydrate namor then finish herc who can't even fly....

I started a war because I dont believe Namor is in the same tier as these two. I cant help it. I just dont. At least most agree SS wins here.

Originally posted by leonidas
because crystal had nothing to do with the hold herc was in. who cares what happened before?? namor put herc in a hold. that was the 'fight'.

Wrong. Vision and Thunderstrike sucker attacked Namor then Hercules piled on. Namor overpowered him and got him in a choke hold which Herc needed to break the floor underneath them to escape. He was easily his superior underwater and only broke off the fight to handle Crystal who was manhandling the rest of his team. He made a fool of her too.

i didn't bring it up. the whole showing is utterly meaningless. as is the fight where herc was trying to rouse namor from his funk. in NO fight did herc ever actually really go at namor.

He went at him underwater and was handled with ease. They fought before on land in the mid 70s and Namor stalemated him till he exhaused himself because it'd been WEEKS since he had been hydrated.

as for abomination--it was funny as hell and it was clearly intended to show that herc>abom. abom was spouting off, herc said excuse me and took him out. lol

But it was clearly a sucker shot. Exactly like this :

against same and similar opponents herc has done better (markedly better in some case) than namor. we have clear, on panel proof herc is stronger, even underwater, though he's lose, as hulk did. i've gone over this many times with many people. i'd happily bz herc/namor who is stronger if it came to that.

Namor was going through personal 'issues' during that phase of the Avengers. Need I remind you Hercules was acting like a little b|tch after his beatdown from the Masters of Evil and needed Thor to snap him out of it. Mental state affects character performance.

as for the thread--ss would simply dehydrate namor then finish herc who can't even fly....

No one is disputing this.

Surfer wins.

Originally posted by zopzop

Wrong. Vision and Thunderstrike sucker attacked Namor then Hercules piled on. Namor overpowered him and got him in a choke hold which Herc needed to break the floor underneath them to escape. He was easily his superior underwater and only broke off the fight to handle Crystal who was manhandling the rest of his team. He made a fool of her too.

lol so, show me. where exactly did herc even really TRY to hurt namor in that scene?

He went at him underwater and was handled with ease. They fought before on land in the mid 70s and Namor stalemated him till he exhaused himself because it'd been WEEKS since he had been hydrated.

blah blah. thing has battled evenly with namor on land. how's namor done vs thor?

But it was clearly a sucker shot. Exactly like this :

cept we have tons of other fights between them to show that that scene is meaningless. so? herc took out abomination like that because he couldn't be bothered wasting time on him. lol

Namor was going through personal 'issues'

lol yeah, caused by herc's consistently shown superiority over a prolonged period of time....

strength bz. use battles and displayed feats. i'll happily prove to you, decisively, that herc is the stronger of the 2 if you'd like. 🙂

Namor has stalemated a bloodlusted Thor in Atlantis Rising even after Thor cheapshotted him and arguably looked stronger underwater even.

And Thing has punked him underwater, and it flat out stated Ben hits harder than him. PIS

Doublestandard. Yall are using Namors best and pretty much lowshowings for beings who have been shown to be multiple times stronger than Namor could ever hope to be based off actual feats. Not cool.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
And Thing has punked him underwater, and it flat out stated Ben hits harder than him. PIS

AvX was an abortion of a series. Even I came to realize that over time. Namor has one shot KOed Spikey Thing, ON LAND.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Doublestandard. Yall are using Namors best and pretty much lowshowings for beings who have been shown to be multiple times stronger than Namor could ever hope to be based off actual feats. Not cool.

I'm not using anything except the times Namor and Hercules fought. Hercules never bested him. They've fought evenly and Namor straight up overpowered him underwater.

I'm a little lost, is the question whether Namor will be of any help here? Because he obviously will.

Originally posted by zopzop
They've fought evenly and Namor straight up overpowered him underwater.

show that. 👆

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
To be fair, Namor did more damage to Thanos recently than Silver Surfer in his whole career. With one punch.

This seems like just a low showing for Thanos. Or it's the single best strength feat in Namor's entire career.

Originally posted by riv6672
I'm a little lost, is the question whether Namor will be of any help here? Because he obviously will.

What does Namor do to help? Hercules to my knowledge can't even fly, if Surfer goes airborne the only person who can get to him is Namor. There is no reason for Surfer to allow Namor to get close enough to physically hit him.

So he flies up, Namor follows and Surfer uses (insert any number of ways he wins) and then the only person left is Hercules who can't fly and could at best perhaps super leap, which means Surfer can take him out at his leisure.

Originally posted by leonidas
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herc solos. 😐

Well if we're going to use alternate characters:

^ 😂 that was hilarious. and, unfortunately.....not all that far from what would likely happen here if ss really got all po'd about it. 🙁

Originally posted by leonidas
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the avengers battle was a stalemate on land, but herc only started a fight because he was trying to HELP namor. he never had any intention of actually really trying to hurt him. he just wanted to get namor out of his funk...

the incredible herc series battle was too brief to be meaningful--and again, herc didn't want to fight him--he was there to help--again.

the time where namor looked 'superior' underwater? namor had herc in a hold that herc seemed unable to break, but it was hardly a fight....

herc is the stronger of the 2. like thor is stronger. underwater it is much closer. differences are negligible. but of course namor's speed and ability to breathe means he would win underwater--doesn't mean he is stronger though. on land, black suit or no, herc would take him were he going full out. but it is pretty close. namor has some good feats and is def elite in strength.


👆

Herc proved his strength superiority again with Beyonder's Tornado.

Originally posted by One-Punch
Well if we're going to use alternate characters:

Owned.

Surfer stomps

Originally posted by leonidas
show that. 👆

So Crystal attacked him, then Thunderstrike attacked him, then Vision attacked him, THEN Hercules jumped in.

Namor recovers and has him dead to rights till Hercules breaks the floor then Cyrstal jumps in.............again. Then he deals with Crystal and Tiger Shark too.

Namor's awesome.