Hercules & Namor Vs Silver Surfer

Originally posted by zopzop

Wrong. Vision and Thunderstrike sucker attacked Namor then Hercules piled on. Namor overpowered him and got him in a choke hold which Herc needed to break the floor underneath them to escape. He was easily his superior underwater and only broke off the fight to handle Crystal who was manhandling the rest of his team. He made a fool of her too.

He went at him underwater and was handled with ease. They fought before on land in the mid 70s and Namor stalemated him till he exhaused himself because it'd been WEEKS since he had been hydrated.

But it was clearly a sucker shot. Exactly like this :

Namor was going through personal 'issues' during that phase of the Avengers. Need I remind you Hercules was acting like a little b|tch after his beatdown from the Masters of Evil and needed Thor to snap him out of it. Mental state affects character performance.

No one is disputing this. [/B]

Seeing as namor wasn't even fighting at full strength as he was trying to reason with hercules,was pinned down by him after attacks from 3 others,yet still turned it around on him easily,and hercules couldn't break free..yea he is stronger..That's not the only time they met underwater...another time namor grabbed his face and legs and bent hercules like a stick,the match went so badly,namor saw it as unfair and had to take the fight back on land to make it fair.

Hercules has never beaten namor on land..and has been easily overpowered underwater,more than once

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Thor has, in the rain. Check the respect thread.

Originally posted by Genii96
Seeing as namor wasn't even fighting at full strength as he was trying to reason with hercules,was pinned down by him after attacks from 3 others,yet still turned it around on him easily,and hercules couldn't break free..yea he is stronger..That's not the only time they met underwater...another time namor grabbed his face and legs and bent hercules like a stick,the match went so badly,namor saw it as unfair and had to take the fight back on land to make it fair.

Hercules has never beaten namor on land..and has been easily overpowered underwater,more than once
I'd bet with current namor's apparent strength and durability increase,he could take herc on land too..

Originally posted by Genii96
Namor was weakened..and he wasn't oneshotted,not even close..he was up the next panel..thor just knocked him down..namor stalemated a bloodlutsted thor..

Originally posted by Genii96
Namor was weakened..and he wasn't oneshotted,not even close..he was up the next panel..thor just knocked him down..namor stalemated a bloodlutsted thor..

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wasn't up the next panel. He was ko'd though briefly.. Wasn't weakened also. Namor just tries to reconcile with a thought on why he was taken out so fast. He recovered quickly probably because of the rain.

The rain helped but Namor NEEDS to return to the sea eventually. This was even mentioned in his 90s series. I was trying to find the scan.

Thor hit him,namor fell down..thor said they would finish the fight later..as he is flying off,we see namor standing...at most he was stunned...and thor and namor have gone at it several more times..namor has taken much worse shots from thor and come out unharmed...even from a bloodlusted thor...

Originally posted by zopzop
Dude he straight up admitted he couldn't take Thor because he'd been away from the sea too long.

The rain helped but Namor NEEDS to return to the sea eventually. This was even mentioned in his 90s series. I was trying to find the scan.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Err... He tells himself that sure.. I'm not denying that fact. But come on bro.. How weakened can he be if it's frikkin raining? Do you need me to show you examples of how ridiculous fast h20 strengthens him or helps him recover?

Originally posted by Genii96
Thor hit him,namor fell down..thor said they would finish the fight later..as he is flying off,we see namor standing...at most he was stunned...and thor and namor have gone at it several more times..namor has taken much worse shots from thor and come out unharmed...even from a bloodlusted thor...

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I see what ure saying. But here's the bottom line. Namor took the first swing. When Thor retaliated, he took him down. We even see him claiming he "felled" Namor as we see him laying down on the ground. More like a flash ko since we see Thor flying away, then swatting a few anti air shells, then destroying those anti air guns. Finally we see Namor up and launching into the air. All happened in the rain.

When thor flies away after claiming to have 'felled' namor..we see 4-5(not sure) shadowy figures standing(iirc)...

But whatever the case,this is the bottom line...we have an event where namor who noted was weakened was easily taken down by thor and several others where namor holds his own just fine against normal and bloodlusted thor...what would the logical consensus be?..

That's far from a bloodlusted Thor. And Namor's statement has to be taken with a grain of salt considering it was raining. He was basically in his element. He got the drop on Thor and walloped him first. But when it came time for Thor's counter, he was briefly put down.

Pretty namor took a bloodlusted thor on in an issue,not at this particular time that we are discussing....namor dosent lie to himself nor other unnecessarily..especially back then...plus namor has taken thor on several more times,so there are facts and feats supporting namor's statements...than otherwise..he wasn't trying to convince any other person why he lost..*nd he is way too prideful to claim something like that..@lus back then,rain or not..he needed to get into a water body..

@ Genii96
Someone on this forum must have that scan I'm referring to. Maybe another Namor fan can help out?

It stated that even rain is no substitute for the sea for Namor and that he needs to return to it regularly to be at full power.

Thor himself says Namor's strength is increasing in rain after the scene.

Originally posted by zopzop
@ Genii96
Someone on this forum must have that scan I'm referring to. Maybe another Namor fan can help out?

It stated that even rain is no substitute for the sea for Namor and that he needs to return to it regularly to be at full power.

I heard about guys like dark crawler...but I dnt see him anymore..I don't know if anyone has that one around.

There was an instance in which Namor got a power-up after a single drop of water or something.

I always thought rain was a power up for aqua based characters...
-shrug-

If namor had been out of water for a long time,rain does revitalize him,but not instantly...he needs to enter into the sea to instantly regain his strenght at full...in that panel...it was noted that namor was increasing in strength in the rain..!ut he wasn't at his full strength yet....