Agent Smith (Matrix) vs. General Zod (MoS)

No, I'm almost always serious.

To answer your question: A neck snap is a move taught in pretty much any martial art that has grappling tecniques. For someone as trained as Smith it shouldn't come as a surprise for him to apply it. Also, the neck is a very sensitive part of the body. A lot oess tougher than the torso or even the head. So if he's unable to hurt Zod in the body then it would make sense for him to target more vulnerable areas

And the kryptonians have disproportionate durability because out of all those punches and kicks and hits they delivered not one of them showed any injury (except the neck snap of course). Compare that to every other living being we know of that gets into fights, all of them have enough strength to injure another of their kind within similar size/weight range.

Heck, even a child can get your nose bloody if he hits it cleanly enough.

Krptonians durability was always massively above their strength even in comics. They are very hard to hurt or kill.

If Neo and Smith both had all that training, I never saw one neck snap. What makes you think Zod wouldn't go do a neck snap?

Because Smith and Neo both have enough skill to counter majority of their moves. Even the other fighters they fought showed far more skill than either Zod or Clark. It's ridiculous to think that out of all the martial arts that Smith and Neo know they somehow don't know how to do a neck snap.

Morpheus knew how to do a neck snap btw, and both Neo and Smith are more skilled.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Because Smith and Neo both have enough skill to counter majority of their moves. Even the other fighters they fought showed far more skill than either Zod or Clark. It's ridiculous to think that out of all the martial arts that Smith and Neo know they somehow don't know how to do a neck snap.

But your assuming they would automatically based on Zod going down that way, not based on anything they have actually ever done. So since they would be the one to do it, its really on you to prove this is something they would automatically go for. Saying that Zod gets his neck snapped based on one showing of MoS doing it, is not relevant unless you can prove this is going down.

IIRC no one did this is Matrix, and they didn't fight like that.

So...what's even being argued?

Same shit we always do😂

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
IIRC no one did this is Matrix, and they didn't fight like that.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
So...what's even being argued?

He doesn't believe Smith knows how to do a neck snap.

once again, Smith is a very experienced fighter who has a shit ton of skills, abilities and manouvers to take on more powerful opponents

Smoith wins, not by stomp, but he wins

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Morpheus did at the entrance to club Hel in Revolutions

To some canon fodder? Wait is Morpehous in this?

Originally posted by FrothByte
He doesn't believe Smith knows how to do a neck snap.

The only reason you bring up the neck snap is that is how Zod died.

If that was not how it went down, it would never have come to you. 😆

It is a shown weakness. You can't ignore it just because you feel like it.

But it's a weakness that Smith wouldn't likely exploit. Look at all of his fights. Most times with inferior opponents but even against Neo in part 2 he didn't try it. Neo was kicking the crap out of about a thousand Smiths and he even when they finally pinned him down, no neck snap. No attempt to target more sensitive areas. He even had his back, much like Kal had Zod's and he did nothing but whisper sweet nothings in his ear. To just assume he would go for the holy grail of Kryptonian killing manuvers here is reaching pretty darn far imo

Who said anything about him going for the move immediately? That's like saying Zod can't do a bearhug + HV on Smith because Zod never used HV close distance before.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Who said anything about him going for the move immediately?

I didn't

Originally posted by FrothByte
That's like saying Zod can't do a bearhug + HV on Smith because Zod never used HV close distance before.

Fair point. But I don't think Zod had the opportunity to. Smith did. Big difference

Cmon people. Snapping the neck isn't some kind of secret technique that takes years to practice. Clark was able to do it in his very first fight ever.

Are we really going to argue that Smith can't do it? I'm not saying he'll go for it immediately, this will be a long drawn out fight, but it's fldefinitely a move he can take when the opportunity arises.

Besides, Zod being killed via neck snap tells me he's probably susceptible to joint manipulation as well.

Joint manipulation😂

Is smith a chiropractor now?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Who said anything about him going for the move immediately? That's like saying Zod can't do a bearhug + HV on Smith because Zod never used HV close distance before.

They were using HV a lot, hoe many neck snaps was Smith doing. Juggs was right, he had the opportunity to neck snap and didn't. You kinda lost your claim here on this. Fact is durability of neo fails in comparison to Zod. And we saw HV can be used up close in a brawl.
HV ftw

Originally posted by FrothByte
Cmon people. Snapping the neck isn't some kind of secret technique that takes years to practice. Clark was able to do it in his very first fight ever.

I'm not saying it is. I'm saying the notion that Smith is sure to go for it is faulty at best.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Are we really going to argue that Smith can't do it? I'm not saying he'll go for it immediately, this will be a long drawn out fight, but it's fldefinitely a move he can take when the opportunity arises.

But in a fight against a superior opponent that he had a ton of trouble trying to hurt, he didn't do so when the opportunity arose. That's why I'm not convinced he will try here. Not saying he can't in the least

Originally posted by FrothByte
Besides, Zod being killed via neck snap tells me he's probably susceptible to joint manipulation as well.

That's a possibility