Hulk vs. Hyperion, Count Nefaria and Gladiator

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I took the op as speed pretty much equalized.

Hyperion, Gladiator, and Nef speed is equalized.

So Hulk wins because he has some sort of superspeed, because the strength + speed gives him advantage over this guys.

Ok, if that argument is sincere what will happen if you restore the SUPER speed on one of the guys and get him to fight the hulk who is not even near the speed level of a speedster?

Will the increased and ridiculuos speed advantage of ONE of the characters will give him the victory over the Hulk?
Or somehow Hulk pulls this one out too?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
So Hulk wins because he has some sort of superspeed, because the strength + speed gives him advantage over this guys.

Ok, if that argument is sincere what will happen if you restore the SUPER speed on one of the guys and get him to fight the hulk who is not even near the speed level of a speedster?

Will the increased and ridiculuos speed advantage of ONE of the characters will give him the victory over the Hulk?
Or somehow Hulk pulls this one out too?

Already happened. Hulk fought everyone here minus Nef. Look at the results.

Hulk loses any way you slice it.

Originally posted by carver9
Already happened. Hulk fought everyone here minus Nef. Look at the results.

You are aware that a comic book fight has CIS and PIS, right? And that a comic book fight does not has the rules of a forum fight?

Did they really used their speed advantage? The only one I recall was Gladiator who in a "brilliant" move decided to carry the hulk on his shoulder to space instead of just punching him to orbit and who was also getting weakened.

Originally posted by carver9
Already happened. Hulk fought everyone here minus Nef. Look at the results.

Exactly. When Hyperion fought him alone, even though Hulk was prevented from tapping out and reverting to Banner, thus keeping him in the fight, he was stalemated by Hyperion.

Add two other elite strong men, and this is a fight.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
You are aware that a comic book fight has CIS and PIS, right? And that a comic book fight does not has the rules of a forum fight?

Did they really used their speed advantage? The only one I recall was Gladiator who in a "brilliant" move decided to carry the hulk to space instead of just punching him to orbit and whonwas getting weakened.

CIS is on here. Hulk beating Gladiator just like Despero beating the JSA and JLA isn't PIS. Let's not go here.

Originally posted by carver9
CIS is on here. Hulk beating Gladiator just like Despero beating the JSA and JLA isn't PIS. Let's not go here.

Then if CIS is on, why don't you have it in the other thread?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then if CIS is on, why don't you have it in the other thread?

Because I'm debating like you.

Originally posted by carver9
Because I'm debating like you.

The hell??????

You asked me what I would do if I were BP, and then you accuse me of arguing OOC?

You're weird, man.

Originally posted by carver9
CIS is on here. Hulk beating Gladiator just like Despero beating the JSA and JLA isn't PIS. Let's not go here.

So based on the argument you are presenting here, you are impliying that on a cis less match a speedster + strongman will defeat Hulk because of the speed advantage.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The hell??????

You asked me what [b]I would do if I were BP, and then you accuse me of arguing OOC?

You're weird, man. [/B]

Lol...on that same page I asked you to disregard me asking you that question.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
So based on the argument you are presenting here, you are impliying that on a cis less match a speedster + strongman will defeat Hulk because of the speed advantage.

Yes, they can bfr him.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes, they can bfr him.

No, no bfr. Just a cis less match. Be careful what you answer because it is basically your own argument you are going against

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...on that same page I asked you to disregard me asking you that question.

So I'm not sure where this accusation that i argue with CIS off comes from?

ESPECIALLY as you're using it to defend your admission that here, you're arguing CIS off for the Hulk to win...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So I'm not sure where this accusation that i argue with CIS off comes from?

ESPECIALLY as you're using it to defend your admission that here, you're arguing CIS off for the Hulk to win...

I'm not arguing CIS off for the Hulk though.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
No, no bfr. Just a cis less match. Be careful what you answer because it is basically your own argument you are going against

Why can't I use bfr as a tactic? You asked me a question and I answered it. They can win via bfr.

Originally posted by carver9
Why can't I use bfr as a tactic? You asked me a question and I answered it. They can win via bfr.

So I ask again your argument vs your argument

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
No, no bfr. Just a cis less match. Be careful what you answer because it is basically your own argument you are going against

Originally posted by carver9
Hyperion, Gladiator, and Nef speed is equalized.

According to carvers' interpretation, let's be clear.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
So I ask again your argument vs your argument

I agree with Pak then. Here is his words...

"I think the Hulk wins because the Hulk is the strongest one there is. If all you're doing is throwing brute force at the Hulk, he's just going to keep getting angrier and angrier".

Source...

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54828

Does that answer your question?