Originally posted by DarkSaint85Based on? And Lol at shifting the goalposts. All Robin did there was throw wild punches, whilst poisoned.
Sweet. Interviews AND bios. Your evidence game is stepping up.
Stilt said their speed is gone. What does speed mean?
Lol...I also said that it was said on panel that Hulk is the strongest (and most powerful) being on the planet.
I also think Hulk is potentially stronger than any of the three here, but its up for debate which means its not vast. With speed equalized this fight would basicall by one heavyweight vs 3 other heavyweights who are each 2 inches shorter and 20 lbs lighter. Miniscule differences, and the one is gonna get crushed. Not a fair fight at all.
That one heavyweight now being multiple times faster than his opponents and able to get hits off before they can react and it becomes different.
But any one of them can fight him solo, this doesent seem fair regardless how you look at it.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I also think Hulk is potentially stronger than any of the three here, but its up for debate which means its not vast. With speed equalized this fight would basicall by one heavyweight vs 3 other heavyweights who are each 2 inches shorter and 20 lbs lighter. Miniscule differences, and the one is gonna get crushed. Not a fair fight at all.That one heavyweight now being multiple times faster than his opponents and able to get hits off before they can react and it becomes different.
But any one of them can fight him solo, this doesent seem fair regardless how you look at it.
Its not up to debate though. Hulk IS stronger.
They shouldn't be able to fight him solo with their abilities off. Especially with him being capable of outright beating them with ALL of their powers being on. Remember, he already stomped Gladiator and fought Hyperion who was backed by Thor and the other Avengers (it was a short fight though. They ended up getting frozen by a time stop device). By themselves, hindered like this, Hulk annihilates them one on one. Their only chance is working as a team.
Originally posted by carver9
Not in a frozen state. Just moving and me and your level of reaction.
But they have no speed, as per the OP.
I have speed, you have speed, that snail and tortoise all have speed. Damian Wayne has speed, Alfred has speed, Aunt May has speed.
You're arbitrarily deciding that they are at the level of a normal, untrained, average human. When the OP says nothing of the sort.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But they have no speed, as per the OP.I have speed, you have speed, that snail and tortoise all have speed. Damian Wayne has speed, Alfred has speed, Aunt May has speed.
You're arbitrarily deciding that they are at the level of a normal, untrained, average human. When the OP says nothing of the sort.
How fast are they and are you implying they are faster than Hulk in this state?
Originally posted by carver9
How fast are they and are you implying they are faster than Hulk in this state?
I was taking it to mean they were equalised in speed.
Edit: IOW, their speed ADVANTAGE was removed, as was their flight ADVANTAGE, to make things more equal (and to remove any hurr durr Gladiator speedblitzes in the first milisecond arguments).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Equalised to Hulk, as they have speeds far faster than Hulk. We can wait until he replies, because whilst my interpretation makes things a bit more even, you're turning it into something similar to an incredibly strong Quicksilver vs some normal humans.
Lol...even though Hulk possess a low level of super speed, he still have super speed. They do not have this as stated per the thread starter, so why would he equalize this?
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...even though Hulk possess a low level of super speed, he still have super speed. They do not have this as stated per the thread starter, so why would he equalize this?
So they do not have speed, as per the thread starter - so.....they are completely motionless? Three statues for Hulk to wail on?
Why would he do this?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What's...normal for a Strontian? You're arbitrarily deciding that they're human speed, does Hulk need that crutch to beat them?
Them not having super speed isn't normal. This isn't a normal battle, their speed has been turned off...not Hulk's. He has a huge speed advantage here along with a strength and damage soak advantage.
Originally posted by carver9
Them not having super speed isn't normal. This isn't a normal battle, their speed has been turned off...not Hulk's. He has a huge speed advantage here along with a strength and damage soak advantage.
But everything has speed. I have speed. You have speed. A sloth has speed.
So taking him literally at OP's words, means they are statues.
If we DON'T take him at his literal word - what level should we put them at? Normal, average human levels, like you assert? I understand in the case of Hyperion and Nefaria, but why Glads?