The whole am a master martial artist and am facing someone as powerful as you, so I'll use my pressure points to beat you shit is beyond stupid.
So let me get this straight, am invunreable to attacks, yet a stupid pressure point strike from a mere human can hurt me? Come on people, think for a second!
That shit should only ever work against to powerful beings.
Batman using pressure points on a being that invunreable is idiotic. Guess what? If you're invunreable, than so are you're pressure points unless you're attack by certain attacks, not by someone that far below you in the totem pole.
We're talking about comics here. Don't try to add RL logic to the mix.
Yes, that's how it works - streets/low metas effectively use pressure point attacks against highly durable beings. Daredevil vs. Mister Hyde. Wolverine vs. Rock of the Buddha. Batman vs. Grundy. The list goes on... whether we like it or not, it is what it is. Happens all the time.
Cage has been shown to be vulnerable to nerve strikes. Bats uses those regularly.
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Cage's other weakness is his lack of stamina. Another tactic Wayne can try. Use his momentum against him, tire him out.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
We're talking about comics here. Don't try to add RL logic to the mix.Yes, that's how it works - streets/low metas effectively use pressure point attacks against highly durable beings. Daredevil vs. Mister Hyde. Wolverine vs. Rock of the Buddha. Batman vs. Grundy. The list goes on... whether we like it or not, it is what it is. Happens all the time.
Cage has been shown to be vulnerable to nerve strikes. Bats uses those regularly.
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Cage's other weakness is his lack of stamina. Another tactic Wayne can try. Use his momentum against him, tire him out.
That's you're reasoning, it's comics?
Just because it's comics doesn't mean bullshit isn't still bullshit.
Originally posted by SquallX
The whole am a master martial artist and am facing someone as powerful as you, so I'll use my pressure points to beat you shit is beyond stupid.So let me get this straight, am invunreable to attacks, yet a stupid pressure point strike from a mere human can hurt me? Come on people, think for a second!
That shit should only ever work against to powerful beings.
Batman using pressure points on a being that invunreable is idiotic. Guess what? If you're invunreable, than so are you're pressure points unless you're attack by certain attacks, not by someone that far below you in the totem pole.
Eternally cosigned
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
We're talking about comics here. Don't try to add RL logic to the mix.Yes, that's how it works - streets/low metas effectively use pressure point attacks against highly durable beings. Daredevil vs. Mister Hyde. Wolverine vs. Rock of the Buddha. Batman vs. Grundy. The list goes on... whether we like it or not, it is what it is. Happens all the time.
Cage has been shown to be vulnerable to nerve strikes. Bats uses those regularly.
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Cage's other weakness is his lack of stamina. Another tactic Wayne can try. Use his momentum against him, tire him out.
Notice you just mentioned three evil complete oafs. That's something else that works in comics. Cage has trained with a premier martial artist all his life and he isn't some monstrous thug.
Originally posted by riv6672
Cage's stamina is surely equal to any in shape person. Its not like he lumbers around and falls over every few pages.
Thats reaching IMO.
That's the thing. He's "only" athlete level, according to the Master Edition Handbook. That's why Daredevil's plan was to wear him down.
Peak human lv > athlete lv.
Originally posted by SquallX
That's you're reasoning, it's comics?Just because it's comics doesn't mean bullshit isn't still bullshit.
Super-skill is a standard thing in comics.
Getting powers from a gamma bomb or a radioactive spider or seeing people while invisible is bullshit, too.
Stiltman is a debator without peer.
Not to mention, he only mentioned it as an aside. Main point, that of pressure point strikes, Batman's speed and skill, still makes this Batman's fight to lose.
As for messing his hand up, Batman has punched Shazam SEVERAL times, and didn't break his hand. WW has bullrushed him, smashing him THROUGH concrete, WITHOUT armour, and he was still in fighting shape.
PIS? Shitty writing? It has happened, several times, for DCnU Batman. In a canon comic. Don't like it? Tough - it has still happened, and we can't just throw out every showing of Batman, or every other street, out, just becasue 'humans can't do it'.
Originally posted by riv6672
You're reaching.
Thats just my opinion on where you're coming from with this argument.
Why do i think that? Because i've never seen it used in any debate where Batman's faced a character who's "just" athlete level.Hell, i've never even seen it used with characters like the Penguin.
Daredevil was pretty sure it would work.
Here's Bruce beating STG, btw, something I mentioned before:
Gotta say, I'm kinda surprised Cage-side hasn't brought up his performance against martial artists and general incidents of nerve strikes not working on bulletproof bodies. That's what I would do in the first place, instead of "I don't like it, it didn't happen" thing. Just saying 🙂
Gotta say, I'm kinda surprised Cage-side hasn't brought up his performance against martial artists and general incidents of nerve strikes not working on bulletproof bodies. That's what I would do in the first place, instead of "I don't like it, it didn't happen" thing. Just saying
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