Originally posted by Deadline
Cap will be stronger than Hal. Cap is Marvels 'Superman' and has more impressive feats of willpower than Superman considering that Cap isn't truly superhuman. Cap was also a cartoonist like Kyle Rayner. I'm saying Cap would be the best GL.LOL even if his shields don't hold up he still has his shield. Even without a GL ring Cap has held his own against high end brick (Hulk). What do you think hes going to do against Superman? All Cap needs is his constructs, flight energy projection to keep him in the game and then take it h2h were he will destroy Cap.
They're having a conversation they're not fighting. Hal Jordon has stopped Zoom who was speed blitzing Superman.
Also Lulz @ Cap being better than Hal.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You want to compare Cap's willpower feats to Superman's?Also Lulz @ Cap being better than Hal.
If you want, but you need to consider that Superman is superhuman. Cap is relatively normal in comparison.
Yea I'm betting Cap has better willpower feats and again thats considering he doesnt have any GL training.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Preboot Superman would stomp a hole in any GL. Heck, in a potential timeline he was fighting entire GL corps for 50 years straight and held them all off.uhuh
He'd probably beat them don't know about stomping. Potential timeline sounds non-canon to me, bet they were just regular GLs.
Originally posted by Deadline
If you want, but you need to consider that Superman is superhuman. Cap is relatively normal in comparison.Yea I'm betting Cap has better willpower feats and again thats considering he doesnt have any GL training.
There is nobody like Hal jordan. You can argue all you want, it's nothing of value.
Heck, his willpower is on panel described as more powerful than central power battery.
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Originally posted by Deadline
He'd probably beat them don't know about stomping. Potential timeline sounds non-canon to me, bet they were just regular GLs.
Are you saying Cap is better than entire corps?
A random Kryptonian bitched both Hal and John at the same time. Superman oneshotted the same Kryptonian on the same page.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman being superhuman doesn't somehow means his willpower is superhuman by default. By that token even Bizarro should be way higher in willpower. That's not how it works.
It can do. Think knowing T-vo helps?
Originally posted by abhilegend
There is nobody like Hal jordan. You can argue all you want, it's nothing of value.Heck, his willpower is on panel described as more powerful than central power battery.
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Don't care what it says on panel I'm betting Cap has relatively better willpower feats than both Hal and Supes.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That just shows how far above writers view him against GLs.Are you saying Cap is better than entire corps?
A random Kryptonian bitched both Hal and John at the same time. Superman oneshotted the same Kryptonian on the same page.
That sounds non-canon.
Originally posted by Deadline
It can do. Think knowing T-vo helps?Don't care what it says on panel I'm betting Cap has relatively better willpower feats than both Hal and Supes.
That sounds non-canon.
Your betting means less than nothing. Post feats of willpower for Cap and we'll see who is better.
Totally canon. New Krypton saga.
Originally posted by abhilegend
T-vo doesn't helps for willpower.
Yes it does he used it on at least one ocassion. I'm stating the obvious.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Your betting means less than nothing. Post feats of willpower for Cap and we'll see who is better.
He had more willpower than Korvac a space god who could change time by waving his hand... and thats without GL training. GL training increases willpower.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Totally canon. New Krypton saga.
That sounds like total PIS or you're not telling the whole story Hal has been able to stop Zoom but he can't stop a random kryptonian with Johns help?
Originally posted by Deadline
Yes it does he used it on at least one ocassion. I'm stating the obvious.He had more willpower than Korvac a space god who could change time by waving his hand... and thats without GL training. GL training increases willpower.
That sounds like total PIS or you're not telling the whole story Hal has been able to stop Zoom but he can't stop a random kryptonian with Johns help?
Korvac isn't known for willpower either. More power doesn't equals more power. Take molecule man for example. And GL training specifically does not increases willpower. It hones it.
Hal attacked Zoom from behind who shattered his chains and went on his way. That's not mentionable for anything.
Jesse Quick oneshotted Zoom. OMG!!!!!!
Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it doesn't. You are just posting random ideas with no value to them.
Of course it does its a mental martial art. Note mental.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Korvac isn't known for willpower either. More power doesn't equals more power. Take molecule man for example.
Yea he is, he was being tortured by the Badoon and turned into a cyborg slave. He found a way to beat them and become a space god. I'm afraid molecule man is the exception people of Korvacs powerset tend to have powerful wills by default. How many skyfather level characters do you think could easily be dominated?
Not to mention the circumstance all Korvac had to do was wave his hand and take Steve back in time and Cap still tired him out.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And GL training specifically does not increases willpower. It hones it.
You're playing with semantics, anyway it makes your willpower better.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hal attacked Zoom from behind who shattered his chains and went on his way. That's not mentionable for anything.
Maybe he did maybe he didnt but Zoom was still moving when Hal tagged him and Zoom >>> that kryptonian.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Jesse Quick oneshotted Zoom. OMG!!!!!!
Not even sure what your point is. So Zoom had a bad day.
Originally posted by Deadline
Of course it does its a mental martial art. Note mental.
So you have no proof that it increases willpower? Good. [ quote]
Yea he is, he was being tortured by the Badoon and turned into a cyborg slave. He found a way to beat them and become a space god. [/quote] Because he stumbled upon that power. It's not a willpower feat.
I'm afraid molecule man is the exception people of Korvacs powerset tend to have powerful wills by default. How many skyfather level characters do you think could easily be dominated?That once his wife betrayed him, he committed suicide? Great willpower there.
Superman tired Emperor Joker out by that criteria.Not to mention the circumstance all Korvac had to do was wave his hand and take Steve back in time and Cap still tired him out.
You were saying?
It does not.You're playing with semantics, anyway it makes your willpower better.
So your point is Cap will tag Superman and Superman then punches him out? Because what's tagging Zoom has to do with fighting Superman?Maybe he did maybe he didnt but Zoom was still moving when Hal tagged him and Zoom >>> that kryptonian.
Not even sure what your point is. So Zoom had a bad day.
Just like Hal tagging Zoom has no point here.