General Primary Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Surtur
On the other hand the Trump supporters aren't the ones showing up at places just for the sole purpose of disrupting shit. Or the ones who showed up just to attack people.

So like I said, both sides need to chill. Yes that includes Trump, but not only Trump.

Again you're missing the point. Protesters becoming violent via their own volition is not the same as being told to be violent by their leader.

BLM, Clinton, and Sanders aren't accountable for the violence done by their supporters, because Sanders and the others aren't telling their supporters to be violent. Trump is most definitely promoting violence amongst his supporters, so he is accountable for any violence done by them.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/hillary-clinton-we-didnt-lose-a-single-person-in-142322732.html

"“I’ve said Iraq was a mistake,” Clinton told Chris Matthews during an MSNBC town hall event on Monday night. “Libya was a different kind of calculation. And we didn’t lose a single person. We didn’t have a problem in supporting our European and Arab allies in working with NATO.”"

Does she not count 4 Americans dead a loss anymore?

Didn't you just make a thread about that?

The National Review (Aka Their Conservative Credentials are Better Than Anyone's) lays out why Protectionist trade policies are bad

And while I don't agree with them on many things, I do agree with them on this.

Trump's supporters have unequivocally shown that they do not care about things like facts. They're too drawn to his willingness to kill families to care about the economic disasters his policies would bring. But he's a businessman. That means he'll pull a rabbit out a hat and make it succeed somehow. Just like Trump Steaks and Trump Airlines 😂

Like you don't care about Hilary lying about not losing Americans in Lybia.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Again you're missing the point. Protesters becoming violent via their own volition is not the same as being told to be violent by their leader.

BLM, Clinton, and Sanders aren't accountable for the violence done by their supporters, because Sanders and the others aren't telling their supporters to be violent. Trump is most definitely promoting violence amongst his supporters, so he is accountable for any violence done by them.

I never said it was the same as being told to do something by your leader. I'm just saying both sides need to equally chill. Trump needs to stop encouraging people and those who disagree with Trump need to stop expressing that by attacking people and all around just showing up to start shit.

In other words: both sides are wrong. There is really no "both sides are wrong, but one is totally more wrong then the other".

Originally posted by Surtur
I never said it was the same as being told to do something by your leader. I'm just saying both sides need to equally chill. Trump needs to stop encouraging people and those who disagree with Trump need to stop expressing that by attacking people and all around just showing up to start shit.

In other words: both sides are wrong. There is really no "both sides are wrong, but one is totally more wrong then the other".

You're right, there's nasty hijinks both ways, but it's pretty easy to see that Trump is giving better than he gets here.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think it's more like "one side is more dangerous than the other," and that's Donald Trump, who is actively using the circus of his passionate supporters and their equally passionate opponents for political capital and directly encouraging pre-election violence.

You're right, there's nasty hijinks both ways, but it's pretty easy to see that Trump is giving better than he gets here.

But is he really giving better though? Seems like the number of people hit by Trump supporters or staff is just about equal to the number of people attacked at the Trump rally.

I think both sides each present a unique kind of danger.

Trump is winning in Florida at 46%,

Rubio is now a the laughing stock of all of Florida.

He might as well move to Puerto Rico or Wisconsin

He is also winning in North Carolina. And Polls are closed.

Man, Rubio's really getting destroyed in his home state. He probably should have dropped out before losing his home state so badly, it's gotta be extremely embarrassing for him.

😂 Yea he needs to move to Puerto Rico

Trump is beating Kasich in Ohio😂

Trump runs the board, and sweeps

Well if Trump does go on to win Ohio then he's pretty much locked up the nomination and we can kiss that idea of a brokered convention goodbye, which I personally would have enjoyed seeing because it would have been absolutely fascinating and something we'd never really seen in modern times.

Clinton runs the board as well.

This will no doubt be Trump vs Hilary for a general.

And it will be the most bloody general election in modern history.

Originally posted by BackFire
Well if Trump does go on to win Ohio then he's pretty much locked up the nomination and we can kiss that idea of a brokered convention goodbye, which I personally would have enjoyed seeing because it would have been absolutely fascinating and something we'd never really seen in modern times.

It would possibly be a civil war if the GOP tried to circumvent the will of the people by parachuting in their own consensus candidate.

The numbers in Ohio are too early to call yet. Kasich is now ahead in Ohio. And Sanders will close the gap in Ohio.

Edit. Just saw the report was for posts from hours ago, well before my previous posts in this forum. sneer

Originally posted by BackFire
The numbers in Ohio are too early to call yet. Kasich is now ahead in Ohio. And Sanders will close the gap in Ohio.

CNN just had had Trump at 45% in Ohio and 34.5 for Kasich...must be early.

Originally posted by Badabing
Edit. Just saw the report was for posts from hours ago, well before my previous posts in this forum. sneer

😂

Bad dino