Originally posted by SurturExactly. Always believe the opposite of what she says and let her weasel out of it. Bill did the same thing iirc. She won't be as good as Bill, but she'll be more effective than Obama.
In a way he is right. We can trust Hilary to be untrustworthy. She's very trustworthy in that regard.
Hilary, "I care about the poor"
Public, "no you don't"
Hilary, "well, here's something that supports my claim, I'm doing my best!"
Rince and repeat.
Originally posted by Lestov16As usual, you're making things up. People said they will leave the country if Hilary is elected, just like with Trump. Those people are stupid. They released a few names of those that will leave the country if Trump is elected and I had to laugh out loud. Miley Cyrus? Cher? Society's trash will leave the country if Trump is elected, that's hysterical. Also you keep saying it will be disaster if Trump is president, without any factual basis. I would point the same thing out to those that say it will be a disaster if Hilary is president. How do you know? You really have never provided any substance to any of your posts. Keep your unfounded biases to yourself.
As stated, a Hillary presidency may not lead to any progress, but at least it won't lead to an apocalypse like a Trump presidency. People say they don't want to vote for Clinton, but they're willing to leave the country if Trump is elected. It's clear who the public despises more.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
As usual, you're making things up. People said they will leave the country if Hilary is elected, just like with Trump. Those people are stupid. They released a few names of those that will leave the country if Trump is elected and I had to laugh out loud. Miley Cyrus? Cher? Society's trash will leave the country if Trump is elected, that's hysterical. Also you keep saying it will be disaster if Trump is president, without any factual basis. I would point the same thing out to those that say it will be a disaster if Hilary is president. How do you know? You really have never provided any substance to any of your posts. Keep your unfounded biases to yourself.
Good post
Originally posted by Lestov16
As stated, a Hillary presidency may not lead to any progress, but at least it won't lead to an apocalypse like a Trump presidency. People say they don't want to vote for Clinton, but they're willing to leave the country if Trump is elected. It's clear who the public despises more.
I don't think Trump or Hilary should be president, but the reality is this country could survive a presidency by either of them. There would be no apocalypse, there would be no civil war, or anything like that.
Make no mistake the country will be in worse shape after they leave office then when it was when they got in, but they won't actually destroy America.
Hilary wants to kill people.
Originally posted by Surtur
I don't think Trump or Hilary should be president, but the reality is this country could survive a presidency by either of them. There would be no apocalypse, there would be no civil war, or anything like that.Make no mistake the country will be in worse shape after they leave office then when it was when they got in, but they won't actually destroy America.
I can offer great vodka or pierogi as a prize. 🙂
Heh perhaps, but I actually even wouldn't put 100% of the blame on Trump or really anyone if they left office with the country worse off then when they came in. It's not like they are entering into a country that is in that great of shape in the first place.
Essentially our next few presidents will need to be minimizing the damage done in the past 15 years.
Trump's being evasive in releasing his tax filings, first he said he would(before officially declaring his run), then he said he wouldn't, not he's saying he will after some "official audit" is over, but apparently they're still auditing his filings from 2009, so it's not expected to be released anytime soon.
It's very likely that he's not as rich as he claims and he's not as business savvy as he claims, which are two cornerstones of his campaign. Least this is the prevailing idea.
Originally posted by Surturit failed because the republicans were gonna lose money which would have trickled down to the poorest first. Reagenomics and a stagnated economy in the early 90s.
Well it certainly disturbs me that she says Big Pharma is her enemy and then accepts money from various pharmaceutical companies.I've never heard of "Hilarycare" before but I was younger during the time Bill was in office. It doesn't surprise me it failed though.
Then she played the republican game, got sponsors and realised what a shit storm she entered. She still hates it, but is glad she got a glimpse of corporate sponsored drug slavery to see how damaging it is.
She won't do much to stop it, but I think she can be trusted enough to know what she's dealing with.
Originally posted by Robtard
Trump's being evasive in releasing his tax filings, first he said he would(before officially declaring his run), then he said he wouldn't, not he's saying he will after some "official audit" is over, but apparently they're still auditing his filings from 2009, so it's not expected to be released anytime soon.It's very likely that he's not as rich as he claims and he's not as business savvy as he claims, which are two cornerstones of his campaign. Least this is the prevailing idea.
It's not an idea that has much merit. He's got anywhere from 1-4 billion. I'm not sure how rich he claims to be.
If "creating jobs" is now your pillar, then you should be all for a Clinton presidency, Obama created 8.7million jobs and as you said 'Hillary will continue Obama's work'.
Originally posted by Robtard
Trump's being evasive in releasing his tax filings, first he said he would(before officially declaring his run), then he said he wouldn't, not he's saying he will after some "official audit" is over, but apparently they're still auditing his filings from 2009, so it's not expected to be released anytime soon.It's very likely that he's not as rich as he claims and he's not as business savvy as he claims, which are two cornerstones of his campaign. Least this is the prevailing idea.
Cool, lets see the tax filings of all the candidates then, not just Trumps.
It might do more damage to lie. If he wins the presidency and then releases these things and it shows he is not as rich or savvy as he claims it will hurt his chances for getting re-elected. Likewise if he doesn't pony up the tax files if he wins it will look bad.
Hilary doesn't possess half the intelligence that Obama has so that's not very valid. Also, good read:
http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/13/news/economy/obama-jobs-state-of-the-union/
Originally posted by Surtur
Cool, lets see the tax filings of all the candidates then, not just Trumps.It might do more damage to lie. If he wins the presidency and then releases these things and it shows he is not as rich or savvy as he claims it will hurt his chances for getting re-elected. Likewise if he doesn't pony up the tax files if he wins it will look bad.
iirc, Hillary and Bernie have, as it's common practice.
No, it would be more important to hide the lie after the election. If he's BSing and wins, he has four years to make people forget or just not care. If the lie comes out now, it could potentially hurt his chances.
The problem is I think this "immunity" he has will vanish once he is in the white house if he wins. It won't be good to start out with a huge lie. I think it would do too much damage, I don't know if 4 years would be enough to fix it unless he spent the entire term doing damage control for that.
Frankly I give two shits about the tax records of any of these people.
Plus while he is in "I can say whatever I want" mode, that is the best time for the lie to come out IMO. I'm sure he'd spout some mumbo jumbo about why the tax records don't really make him look that bad, etc.