General Primary Discussion Thread

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Went on a little vacation with the gf to San Diego, then got sick, then got lazy.

Originally posted by BackFire
Went on a little vacation with the gf to San Diego, then got sick, then got lazy.

What you do in SD?

We were only there for 2 days, we went to the zoo and walked around shelter island, which is where our hotel was. Had dinner with one of her friends who recently moved there.

Originally posted by BackFire
We were only there for 2 days, we went to the zoo and walked around shelter island, which is where our hotel was. Had dinner with one of her friends who recently moved there.

Oh shit, I thought you were going there to kill some people and bury their bodies in a timely fashion.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Sanders is pretty robust, and a fighter, I don't see Hilary taking him on as good as he can throw punches. He's far left of her and she can only follow him.

Sanders is a fighter? I hope you're joking, TI. He didn't look like much of one when those BLM activists took his microphone away from him. All he did was bend over and kiss their asses. "Oh, how long will you need it?" he said to them instead of standing up for himself. LOL. Course he is a democrat and they're known for being weak. I'm pretty sure Hilldog could take him. He's a wimp.

You're a wimp.

Originally posted by Trocity
You're a wimp.

You're a ladyboy.

Ignore that troll, long pig. I'd just put him on ignore if I were u. I did it months ago and have never regretted it.

Originally posted by Star428
Ignore that troll, long pig. I'd just put him on ignore if I were u. I did it months ago and have never regretted it.

I want to flirt with this ladyboy.

He logged off, what a coward.😂

FiveThirtyEight discusses Carson vs Trump, especially in Iowa where Carson has a poll lead.

Noting that Carson's getting more of the evangelical vote which does well in Iowa, and whether or not that's indicative of the wider state of the contest between the two or if it's a local thing.

Nate Silver makes a good point on the media's narrative on Trump:

The media narrative about Trump is in disarray right now. If you look at the Iowa polls, he’s clearly fallen behind Carson. If you look at national polls, he’s still ahead (and, in fact, seems to have recovered some of the points he lost after the previous debate). So voters go back and forth between reading stories implying that Trump is doomed and those that imply he’s invincible. I wonder if that dynamic doesn’t help him a bit. It seems like he’s totally Teflon when the real story is more that there isn’t all that much news in the campaign and the media is over-interpreting noisy data.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Sooner or later Bernie or Hilary will have to buckle down harder and smear each other. I don't think Clintons questionable record wil hold up against his.

Eh, people on the right really overestimate how questionable Clinton's record is. The thing is, to the left, the Benghazi and e-mail stuff just look like Republican hatchet jobs, blown way out of proportion. And with those out of the way, she's in good shape. This article has a bit on how Republicans overestimate her weakness,


Republicans are erroneously convinced they can beat Clinton solely with talk of Benghazi, e-mails, and other controversies that have nothing to do with the economy and the real lives of real people. Nowhere does the Fox News-Rush Limbaugh echo chamber more hurt Republican chances of beating Clinton than in the politics of scandal and controversy. To paraphrase the famous line attributed to Pauline Kael: everyone who conservatives know think the Clintons should be in prison. The problem is that swing voters don’t share that view in sufficient numbers to actually warrant banking a victory on placing those arguments front and center. Kevin McCarthy’s acknowledgement that the Benghazi committee was set up to damage Clinton politically has not just polluted the select committee’s efforts; it also means that one of the most effectively tried-and-true Team Clinton defenses (that any controversy that swirls around her is a ginned up political attack because Republicans don’t want to talk about real issues) has got legs straight through next November.

It sounds weird, but having opponents already mine a candidate's whole history and threw it at them can leave them in a surprisingly strong position against attacks, not leaving much angles for future attack. Benghazi and E-mails have been tapped out. You're not likely to have a notable scandal after them. And the Democrats think the negative reputation stuff is overblown.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Sanders is pretty robust, and a fighter, I don't see Hilary taking him on as good as he can throw punches. He's far left of her and she can only follow him.

Would you look at this. its like I can see the future.

http://www.today.com/news/bernie-sanders-today-glad-hillary-clinton-moving-my-way-issues-t52366

Liberal host on MSLSD: Clinton 'pathetic' for playing 'sexism' card

YouTube video

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/liberal-host-clinton-pathetic-for-playing-sexism-card/article/2574975

Interesting, one poll has Carson in first place.

CBS

Just one, so possibly an outlier, but still, things are getting interest.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Liberal host on MSLSD: Clinton 'pathetic' for playing 'sexism' card

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/liberal-host-clinton-pathetic-for-playing-sexism-card/article/2574975

Meh, it was still a pretty ironic remark coming from the more shouty of the two, so open for a rebuttal.

Still fairly low-end stuff, they haven't begun to really go at it.

Really looking forward to the Republican debate tonight.

How about a reality check

Trump on veterans

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/politics/donald-trump-veteran-support-iowa/

Hilary on veterans

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/politics/hillary-clinton-veterans-affairs-gop/

I can't believe people are going to vote for this disgrace of a woman.

Trump has done better and lasted far longer than I first imagined.

Really curious to see what the Rep poll numbers are for him, Carson, Fiorina and Rubio in coming week after this last debate.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial

Hilary on veterans

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/politics/hillary-clinton-veterans-affairs-gop/

I can't believe people are going to vote for this disgrace of a woman.

For... thinking the VA needs to be improved rather than privatized?

That's not exactly the most damning of things. She's not anti-veteran in the slightest.

Let's also not forget Hillary has a far better track record on healthcare as a whole, supporting national healthcare reform (has been since the 90s), which helps tens of million.

People are going to vote for her because of her stance on issues, which are ones that will help more people than her opponent's. That's not hard, and if you keep building herself into this 'horrible disgrace' in your head without actually seeing what she does and why she appeals, then that just means you're not looking at her, you're looking at an image of her painted in caricature.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
How about a reality check

Trump on veterans

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/politics/donald-trump-veteran-support-iowa/

Hilary on veterans

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/politics/hillary-clinton-veterans-affairs-gop/

I can't believe people are going to vote for this disgrace of a woman.

Is it really any surprise that she feels that way about veterans after what she allowed to happen in Benghazi? Two of the people killed were former Navy SEALs (veterans) weren't they? Yeah, of course Trump cares more about our vets than that b**** does. Probably all the candidates do. Even Bernie (LOL), and that's really saying something. Only person Hillary really cares about is herself.