Don't count chickens before they're hatched, I say.
While Trump's the most likely Republican, Cruz has a shot, and the Republican establishment may be able to pull a longshot if they can get down to one person soon enough.
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
I think Hillary takes South Carolina by a decent margin. I can really get into this election. I don't care for anyone running at all. I'm seriously cosidering whether to vote or not.
Hah, yea, politics can be good theater 🙂
Originally posted by |King Joker|
I hope Jeb, Rubio and/or Christie drop out soon. Carson should too - he was massacred.
Christie is the logical dropout.
Jeb and Rubio are still the two most likely people for the establishment to cluster around going forward. Kasich lack organization past NH, this was his big gamble- and though he got 2nd, he's going to have a heck of a time doing a followup.
That may be true - but honestly I think after the last debate's malfunctioning Rubio had and subsequent misfiring's in his robotic brain on the campaign trail, he lost a lot of steam. Jeb himself just looks like a weenie on the debate stage and he hasn't been doing as well as people thought he would when the race started. I don't think they have any chance, personally, and Kasich getting 2nd place in N.H. might draw eyes to him as the new face of the "establishment" Republicans running. But I definitely agree that Kasich's lack of organization nation-wide will be a big hurdle for him.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
That may be true - but honestly I think after the last debate's malfunctioning Rubio had and subsequent misfiring's in his robotic brain on the campaign trail, he lost a lot of steam. Jeb himself just looks like a weenie on the debate stage and he hasn't been doing as well as people thought he would when the race started. I don't think they have any chance, personally, and Kasich getting 2nd place in N.H. might draw eyes to him as the new face of the "establishment" Republicans running. But I definitely agree that Kasich's lack of organization nation-wide will be a big hurdle for him.
I will note that if you added Kasich, Bush, Rubio, and Christie together, that'd be the biggest total. Trump's level is not yet at the stage where the establishment, if it concentrated, can't challenge it.
And sure, Rubio's hurt, but he may recover. Bush seems to have increasingly gotten his act together and the media loves a 'comeback' story.
Kasich is likely to look good for the moment, but South Carolina and Nevada are likely to have him at the bottom of the establishment pack. Rubio has spent a lot of effort in Nevada (for some reason he thought the fourth state would be a good place to fortify), and Bush's performance *and* oodles of money may help him outperform Rubio in SC.
Originally posted by Q99I doubt it. If there's anything Republicans hate, it's the perception of inauthenticity and looking like a typical "Washington, D.C. politician" - which is exactly what Rubio emanated during the debate and what he continues to do. It was a critical hit and nothing points to any recovery, I don't think. And Bush is continuously slapped around by Trump during debates and looks sort of foolish when he tries to go on the offensive - personally I think it's too late for him to gain much traction, but who knows with him.
And sure, Rubio's hurt, but he may recover. Bush seems to have increasingly gotten his act together and the media loves a 'comeback' story.Kasich is likely to look good for the moment, but South Carolina and Nevada are likely to have him at the bottom of the establishment pack. Rubio has spent a lot of effort in Nevada (for some reason he thought the fourth state would be a good place to fortify), and Bush's performance *and* oodles of money may help him outperform Rubio in SC.
Yeah, no disagreement there. I think Kasich is the most sane Republican running so that's why I'm rooting for him (though it could make sense for me to root for Cruz or Trump - Hillary or Bernie would likely massacre them in a general election).
Democrat-side turnout: Not as good as Obama vs Hillary, but noticeably better than Al Gore vs Bill Bradley or John Kerry vs Howard Dean.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
I doubt it. If there's anything Republicans hate, it's the perception of inauthenticity and looking like a typical "Washington, D.C. politician" - which is exactly what Rubio emanated during the debate and what he continues to do. It was a critical hit and nothing points to any recovery, I don't think. And Bush is continuously slapped around by Trump during debates and looks sort of foolish when he tries to go on the offensive - personally I think it's too late for him to gain much traction, but who knows with him.
Jeb scored good hits on Rubio last time. To my perception, his spine is strengthening.
Rubio, he hasn't shown signs of recovery *yet*, but there's still time.
And while Republican working class voters may not be a fan of looking DC politician, there's a lot of Republican upper class voters too, and they're no fan of Trump and even less of Cruz. They want a dog in the race. The evangelical vote is also potentially available if they can team up with Trump to knock Cruz out, so they'd aim to beat Cruz then use the Cruz vote to take on Trump if they can.
I'm not saying it's likely, but it's not out of the question yet. There's roads to victory, if tough ones.
Yeah, no disagreement there. I think Kasich is the most sane Republican running so that's why I'm rooting for him (though it could make sense for me to root for Cruz or Trump - Hillary or Bernie would likely massacre them in a general election).
Kasich *did* have that weird thing about banning teacher's lounges to prevent rabble-rousing, but yea, I agree. Jeb is also fairly sane I feel.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I don't see how Jeb says this is a win.When did 4th place become a win.
That's not even a bronze medal.
It's a you didn't make it medal..
He beat Rubio, and was nigh-tied with Cruz, a frontrunner. Kasich beat him but Kasich is a flash in the pan.
Yea, not a win, but sorta inching his foot onto a path that he hopes will let him cut off Rubio, get the establishment vote, and then grow into an actual contender again.
Which is.... an uphill battle, to say the least, but is not completely impossible.
Both Chris Christie and Carly Fiorino are dropping out. Sucks massively for Christie after his awesome show over dominance over Rubio. Speaking of Rubio his debate performance hurt him massively. Feel bad for Bush too for all that money he spent. Kasich is the big surprise, but as usual, it's the Donald who dominated the polls, managing to come back big after losing to Cruz in Iowa.
So as of now, Trump, Kasich, Cruz, Bush, and maybe Rubio are the most promising prospects for the Republican domination.
As far as the democrats go, Sanders winning was no surprise, but the margin is definitely unexpected for him. Hillary better do something to wow minoroty voters quick, because the minority vote is definitely starting to slip away. Her main problem is she is still trying to play the "1st female president" card while Sanders is actually addressing issues head on, and people care more about progress than gender entitlement.
Originally posted by Lestov16As far as the democrats go, Sanders winning was no surprise, but the margin is definitely unexpected for him. Hillary better do something to wow minoroty voters quick, because the minority vote is definitely starting to slip away. Her main problem is she is still trying to play the "1st female president" card while Sanders is actually addressing issues head on, and people care more about progress than gender entitlement.
Yes however hillary has something like 360 superdelegates so she has some wiggle room to try and get control of her downward spiral.
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
YouTube video😐
I just have to say I love when children are used by people to make a political statement.
This video plus that other video of a bunch of little mexican kids saying "f*ck trump for wanting to get rid of us" are just gold. Great parents, great political messages, just some all around greatness.
The kids have no clue as to what they are actually saying, but it's adorable either way.
Originally posted by Lestov16Agreed with everything you said. 👆
Both Chris Christie and Carly Fiorino are dropping out. Sucks massively for Christie after his awesome show over dominance over Rubio. Speaking of Rubio his debate performance hurt him massively. Feel bad for Bush too for all that money he spent. Kasich is the big surprise, but as usual, it's the Donald who dominated the polls, managing to come back big after losing to Cruz in Iowa.So as of now, Trump, Kasich, Cruz, Bush, and maybe Rubio are the most promising prospects for the Republican domination.
As far as the democrats go, Sanders winning was no surprise, but the margin is definitely unexpected for him. Hillary better do something to wow minoroty voters quick, because the minority vote is definitely starting to slip away. Her main problem is she is still trying to play the "1st female president" card while Sanders is actually addressing issues head on, and people care more about progress than gender entitlement.
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygonLOL.
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